06:10
Wanna have another go with port 80?
06:12
Zack
the weird node is now 2 blocks ahead of us
06:12
Jim
Should I add it or is this temporary?
06:12
O K
temporary for the weekend
06:12
no need to add the 80
06:13
u=http://amoveopool.com
will work
06:13
The fee is zero for the time being
06:14
It's running through cloudflare so it's an experiment
06:14
Jim
Ah, interesting
06:16
O K
And fully open source, to appease the FOSS gods of destruction
06:18
I P
we need to communicate to miners somehow that they need to switch to working pool
06:19
Mr Flintstone
mining discord
06:28
Sy
hmm china forked off
06:30
I P
its bad. but if amoveopool hashrate will be more than china pool...
06:31
Sy
and yet they find nothing
06:36
Zack
I fixed the bug where workerids were stopping me from finding blocks.
06:37
now the open source mining pool correctly ignores workerids
06:37
O K
Okay, I've updated as well
06:37
This is ready again, we are synced up
07:08
Zack
@kitty123 Gonzalo @315030109 ()
please restart your nodes and get them synced when you get a chance. you do not have to delete the blocks.
07:11
Juggy
Is avp2 finding blocks?
07:11
O K
Not lately, stll under attack
07:11
I set up this with 0 fees as a temporary solution
07:12
We will need to move the server and rebuild
07:13
Juggy
I'm on Zacks pool, been on 23 shares for probably hours. I'm guessing no pool is getting anything
07:13
O K
Pham's new miner he just released will let you set amoveopool2 as your main pool, and then set up backup pools for when it's down
07:14
It's a good solution if you have balance sitting on many pools
07:14
Juggy
But they're all not getting blocks
07:14
O K
mm, no it's moving a bit
07:15
Juggy
I'm not certain.. been on 23 shares for quite a while
07:16
O K
I've been watching it, I can't speak to your shares, but blocks have moved
07:17
Juggy
Did the url for avp2 move
07:18
O K
No, I just have both URLs so I set one up as a temporary solution for the time being
07:18
Juggy
Cuz I'm still getting sleep from yours
07:18
O K
from u=http://amoveopool.com
?
07:18
Juggy
Ok it changed
07:18
O K
I don't want to mislead you. avp2 is avp2
07:18
avp2's URL has not changed
07:19
If you want to mine on that infrastructure, then you shouldn't change
07:19
if you want a temporary solution, you can mine on
amoveopool.com
07:19
Juggy
I'm using phams miner that defaults to yours, it's sleeping there
07:19
O K
It defaults to avp2 👍
07:19
The attacks are ongoing
07:20
If you want, you can set up to mine on avp2 by default, then if it fails to get work it will switch to another pool of your choice
07:20
He just added that feature, check the github for 2.2
07:20
I have
amoveopool.com set up as an experiment through cloudflare
07:21
Juggy
Ok might as well add all the pools then
07:38
Zack
The most recent block was 9 minutes ago found by BEwcaw
07:55
Deleted Account
aye whats going on with the pool
07:56
Deleted Account
so no pools running ATM ?
08:00
getwork failed is what i am getting
08:02
Deleted Account
was the fifficuly to hugh
08:05
Deleted Account
O K
08:05
everything is fucked
08:06
O K
Tell me about it broseph
08:06
Deleted Account
sleep 522 sleep 522
08:06
O K
This should be an amoveo holiday
08:06
Next year we need to remember
08:06
Deleted Account
imagine pool goes online and weget 400 veo each o k
08:06
imagine the cunts we get to fuck with that money
08:07
O K
I double checked, this work
08:07
What miner are you using TL?
08:08
You may need to add port 80
10:01
Deleted Account
not for me
10:02
neither the regular link nor the one with port 80
10:02
i am getting getwork fails
10:05
Arg
my wallet don´t show me my balance, why
10:06
i use my private key
10:06
but dont show me anythin
10:06
but veoscan show me
11:18
Tij
Are the main pools being ddos'd or something?
11:19
Zack
yes, you got it
11:20
Tij
Is it just client side though? My miners seem to be running just fine, I just can't watch any of my progress
11:22
Tij
Awesome, appreciate the help my friend
11:35
Deleted Account
this DDOS attack has to be expensive from a cost/ opportunity cost perspective. I wonder what's the end objective here
11:36
definitely it's not helping one specific pool gain more miners - at least so far, nor is it letting anyone instamine
11:37
and a ddos of this size and scale would be very expensive to maintain for a long period of time before either it doesnt economically make sense anymore or it's solved from pools' ends
11:38
the effect/ damage at best would be temporary in nature
11:38
but the price so far in OTC markets hasnt tanked
11:39
what am I missing here
11:40
Zack
I don't know why the attacker attacked.
11:47
Deleted Account
yeah, i am not able to find a selfish motive here. it's good for amoveo on the longer term, helps build more defenses
11:47
ok i can connect to your pool zack
11:47
finally something's working
11:50
ok one thing can be that the attacker wants to reverse some trades/ wants to do a 51% attack
11:50
i wonder how effective or profitable would that be
12:07
Deleted Account
I'm working on to restore.
12:16
Deleted Account
I do not think so. Logs show only normal traffic.
12:17
veoscan is on very cheap VPS. I'm upgrading now.
12:32
Zack
During the attack everyone keeps refreshing veoscan to see what is happening
12:32
Deleted Account
hey you guys
12:36
Deleted Account
lol
12:37
Deleted Account
Yes, I think that's what's happened.
12:41
Deleted Account
u guys need cloudflare?
13:03
Ben
Do we have a Telegram amoveo bot yet?
13:03
To check block height, and total coins mined
13:22
Deleted Account
It turns out that the VPS account where veoscan was running was suspended by server admin due to heavy traffic.
I have to rent another dedicated server. So downtime may continue a bit long.
14:32
Deleted Account
http://amoveo.noncense.tech is still operating normally, I think this pool has not been targeted at all these last 24h. Another thing, one of our miners have a public key ending in "Td46E=.itsme", if you are reading this please correct it and I will manually transfer your accumulated work into your actual address
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15:39
Deleted Account
Veoscan is back online. Bandwidth is upgraded 4x and it's now under Cloudflare.
Tips are always welcome :)
http://veoscan.io/donate
16:19
Kale
veoscan down again
16:21
I P
works for me...
16:22
Deleted Account
I accidentally changed firewall setting. Now it's back.
16:25
Sebsebzen
Doesn’t work for me yet. But can I donate ETH?
16:25
H N
I can visit veoscan
Y joined group by link from Group
16:30
Deleted Account
Hmm... are you redirected to Cloudflare error page?
16:31
I tried access from several locations, all is fine.
18:20
Demi Yilmaz
why is it down? what happened?
18:35
Evans Pan
Is Zack's pool really working? I mined for one night and got nothing
18:40
Angelos | Coinomi Wallet (I will never PM you first)
😂
19:05
I P
discord works, i just checked
19:06
sometimes discord can't be accessed because of maintenance on discord servers
19:37
Deleted Account
is anything working?
19:38
I P
what do you mean by that?
19:38
Deleted Account
any pools?
19:41
blocks are getting through
19:41
so the question is- what's not working?
19:44
i think some big farms switched back to whatever they were mining before until the pools are stable again
19:45
Deleted Account
I have very bad results from mining last two days .. It s look like something is wrong but I dont know what. 😊
19:45
H N
Zack pool is working
19:46
Deleted Account
what to do
19:47
Sy
the small pools are mostly unaffected so far
19:47
noncense, fish and zack
19:48
Deleted Account
When mining farms switched so it should be slow ...is it?
19:48
does it take longer to find a block?
19:49
Jackie
Which pool does this address belong?BLu2W4Lw39b5aHmtCFRdqjmBvqiJ9fbpxQCg3sU61Xa2SfJWpI
19:51
Jackie
Is it a private one again?
19:52
It seems your pool has been stable now sy
19:52
Mr Flintstone
there has been a big denial of service attack
Lukas
19:52
this is why you haven’t gotten shit
19:56
Deleted Account
You know why this attack?
19:56
Mr Flintstone
nobody knows why
19:56
it could be someone trying to help us
19:56
so that we shore up our defenses against this kind of attack in the future
19:56
or it could be a malicious attack
19:57
because someone feels threatened by amoveo
19:57
Deleted Account
what is actual hashrate and block time?
20:01
Deleted Account
interesting
20:06
Deleted Account
Someone wants to harm the projekt
20:06
Please no Illuminati thoughts
20:07
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
20:13
Minieep21
Aeternity don't like Amoveo
20:32
Deleted Account
Thank you so much!!
20:41
Ghadras
Stick together team 👊
20:49
I P
well ddosing the most popular pools will not harm the project because more pools will open anyways, this should lead to more mining decentralization ultimately
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21:58
you can now buy amoveo t shirts on amazon
22:03
Mr Flintstone
someone posted a bunch of links in the discord
22:03
there are other colors too
22:14
Mandel Hoff
Is unbank the banked backwards or correct?
22:15
did Zack give thmbs up
22:18
Jax
Is amoveo pool up?
22:36
O K
Quick update everyone. The temporary pool is still online at
amoveopool.com —
u=http://amoveopool.com
for pham's miner. For other miners try
amoveopool.com:80 .
22:37
As for
amoveopool2.com, we are in the process of migrating the server. We have the database files secured. ETA later today.
22:37
O K
Apologies to those of you that PM'd me, I have about 2500 of those.
23:25
Zack
When I post online about problems or limitations in Amoveo, it is more than 10x as popular as when I post about features or capabilities of Amoveo.
23:52
Zack
@aaronshao I did an important update to the mining pool. It should be able to handle much larger volumes of traffic now without becoming unlucky.
23:53
Deleted Account
Thank you zack
23:54
[Riki]
Its like unclothe the dressed
23:56
Al
Zack Hello! Can you please explain how your pool is paying rewards? For example as discussed earlier - I got 2048 shares - yey 1 veo! But no.. Per my understanding even if I got 2048 shares and pool found only one block (for example) - then my payment is only 0.1 Veo, rest is stayed for another block, correct? What happens if I leave your pool - all shares are there and will be distributed based on same formula 10% from block?
23:58
Larry
Haha this is probably a good thing
23:58
Zack
a person who is "unbanked" is someone who lacks access to basic financial services.
It is similar to someone without access to clean water or shelter. A desperate person lacking a basic tool needed for survival.
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00:10
Sebsebzen
Actually that’s the Omise GO slogan
00:20
Mandel Hoff
Unbank the banked sounds backwards then but maybe I'm wrong. Should it be bank the unbaked instaed? The amazon store is what I'm referring to.
00:25
Mr Flintstone
I’ve seen people deliberately phrase it as “unbank the banked”
00:25
in the sense that they are part of the traditional financial banking infrastructure
00:25
and we are trying to “unbank” them
00:34
Mandel Hoff
Ok so unbank the banked is like an attack, and bank the unbaked is like a new service for people who need it. Both are valid.
00:47
Toby Ganger
"Transcend banking" would be more precise
00:53
O K
I think you hit the nail on the head, it's probably not a literal thing
00:54
Deleted Account
Is amoveopool2 down?
00:57
O K
It's just a quick-and-dirty temporary solution, all balances will be paid out when avp2 is back up
03:19
Živojin Mirić
I want to order a t-shirt that has official color, will it be yellow, blue, red...? :)
05:14
Sebsebzen
I also like the heart and crystal ball one
05:14
Yellow is the semi-official one
05:36
Sy
hmm i might need one of those shirts int he future....but the color has to match with my lambo!
05:39
J. Stone
any idea why the block height sometimes doesn't keep up with the header height?
05:44
like right now API height is at the same as all other nodes, but blocks are behind by about 4 blocks
05:47
Sy
follow the sync readme
05:48
if you havent inserted yourself into the peers and traded with others they wont talk to you
05:49
J. Stone
yep, I've done all of that
06:13
Sy
are you on a public ip?
06:13
vserver or something?
07:24
CryptoMach
anyone else having problems sending veo?
07:40
Zack
I was able to send veo from the light wallet today
07:42
I P
does your pool work right now?
07:43
gave it a test and got getwork failed
07:43
Zack
it is finding blocks, and people are being paid shares
07:43
My pool does not support workerids
07:53
that is kind of strange. did not use worker id
07:54
Zack
Does it fail sometimes, or all the time?
07:54
Zack
There were a bunch of failures for someone who put a newline '\n' at the end of their pubkey
07:55
I don't know what your configuration looks like, but maybe if you make the pubkey different
08:00
Deleted Account
Zack the veoscan is down?
08:03
Zack catweed The balance of the
veoscan.io website has not changed, but the balance of the light node wallet has changed,why?
08:04
Zack
I think veoscan takes longer to update sometimes
08:05
I want to find out what is wrong. Maybe ask in dicord's mining channel
08:05
Deleted Account
Is the block not synchronized?
08:06
I P
ok, sure, i will move my question there
09:30
Y
hello, i am very impressed with what i read so far about this project. where can i get more information?
is there a way to buy Amoveo tokens or can they just be accquired through mining at this stage?
09:30
thanks for the help
09:54
Deleted Account
Are there non-VEO-transfer tx taking place atm?
09:54
Any DApps built or being built yet?
09:55
Zack
I wrote a lightning payment smart contract, and a contract for markets for binary derivatives that get matched in single-price batches.
10:06
Mr Flintstone
they are basically binary options
10:16
Deleted Account
Which is the largest pool now?
10:43
Deleted Account
How to join it
10:46
J. Stone
anyone else know about this first failure mode
curious what the fix was with the pool
10:50
oh, found on discord from Zack first failure mode happens if your Amoveo full node doesn't respond to a http request within 3 seconds.
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16:10
Sy
and another pool :)
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16:46
Deleted Account
So there is one poll which mined almost all blocks recently?
16:47
Harmony is lifer • $ONE 🦄
The secret pool
16:51
Deleted Account
what to do about it?
16:54
We need to attack them
16:55
Sy
not sure if its secret or the one tony just posted
17:21
Deleted Account
If I only have keys.db file, can I use it on light wallet to transfer coin?
17:27
Gonzalo
no, keys.db is encripted
17:30
Sy
yeah, there is no native way to get the privatekey from your node
17:30
you'd have to modify erlang to dump it
17:55
Deleted Account
Damn, I run a node on my PC, and transfered some coin to it, now seems very hard to transfer them out. Becouse I do not have a public IPv4 for my laptop
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18:37
Živojin Mirić
So DDOS still ongoing?
18:38
Sy
it should work tho if you are synced
18:38
it will still broadcast the txs
18:38
or you broadcast py hand vs peers:all(). entries
18:39
To sync transactions with a peer that has ip
1.2.3.4 and port 8080:
api:txs({{1,2,3,4}, 8080}).
18:39
just do that vs the mining nodes and it should work
19:25
Zack
Get rid of the part about me. I can't send anyone Veo from your pool.
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19:43
Zack
thanks for the warning. I restarted it and it looks ok now
19:44
Igor
What pool is currently running?
19:48
they both appear to be working now
20:07
Deleted Account
Not working
20:12
Deleted Account
Thanks
20:14
I P
this is a backup pool, amoveopool2 will be up soon, O K is close to finishing migration to another server and much better DDoS protection so it will be stable
20:18
Deleted Account
🎉🎉🎉
20:26
Igor
tell me which pool to use for mining now?
20:33
Živojin Mirić
Is it Batman or Joker now?
21:11
Deleted Account
I will try soon. Have to do some things before
21:55
gh0stOo
whats veo worth aktually ?
22:22
Igor
when stat is available on your pool ? I'm mining for 2 hours and it still shows NaN shares
22:33
Zack
stats are always available on my pool.
22:44
Kale
china pool under ddos now
23:29
Kale
fuck me,i want to close pool
23:30
lost money,waste time,let mimer complaint
23:34
Deleted Account
What price is amoveo going for currently?
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23:36
Deleted Account
Zack how to use statistic on your pool ? 2048 shares = 1 VEO or 0.1 VEO ?
23:38
Zack
2048 shares = about 1 veo
23:46
Jim
Pools updated on
mveo.net, you may need to refresh
23:46
Fortunately I’m up during this whole thing
23:51
Deleted Account
Why I am seeing two same trx in same height?
23:58
Zack
which mining software? what is your bat file?
I just did some updates to block the attacker. maybe it blocks some miners too.
00:01
Igor
BH5uq7aGWPYZdZx2Da8NkeRSIaaZS3EsV79M05RQKA4dSFWn2LPCv13cbZAt+ovqWQ9DZf10v7D8IOpADDMcLVQ= b=256 n=168 p=0 d=all df=1
u=
http://159.89.106.253:8085/work
00:04
Zack
You still can't find shares?
00:08
put together this chart last night
00:08
gives you a sense of how the discord otc activity has really been picking up lately
00:09
Igor
part of the rig connect, some disconnect
00:10
Zack
some of your cards are unable to find shares?
or each card only connects sometimes?
00:16
Mandel Hoff
I don't think Zack's pool uses the
/work endpoint like your command line shows
00:16
Zack
/work is optional in my pool I think
00:17
maybe try without and see
00:17
Mandel Hoff
Cool. Didn't know that worked now
00:18
Zack
someone else is saying that veominer stopped working after the udpate
00:19
I will make some changes to see if we can get it to work for veominer again
00:21
are you sure it is 2.1? other people are saying 2.1 is good and 2.0 is bad
00:22
O K
For what it's worth, I haven't had any problems with 2.0
00:22
I P
i was saying it for 2 days now...
00:23
Zack
@potat_o you are mining on my new pool that I updated 30 minutes ago?
00:23
O K
Last update about 20 hours ago
00:24
Igor
first rig - rig 1080ti x 6 - connect, second rig - rig1080ti x 8 -disconnect
01:06
Igor
can be blocked IP?
01:09
Jon Snow
Nice chart 👍 thanks for the work!
01:27
Zack
Who is running BK9Q?
Does it have a website?
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01:33
Mike
what's current estimation for nvidia 1070 profitability in veos? any links?
01:54
Sy
Chinese and yes, it does
01:54
My guess is on Aaron
01:59
Zack
Aaron runs BBCN pool
02:00
aaron is the only one who modified your pool to accept workers
02:00
and i dont think he sold it so...
02:00
he is running all 3
02:01
if it is open sourced then no idea who is running them
02:01
Zack
Aaron's code is open source
02:01
then "some chinese" xD
02:01
the first one is running 44 th now
02:03
So it is probably Aaron
02:33
Deleted Account
Zack can you tell me your blacklisted IP ranges, I think some of my rigs are there.
02:35
Pan
If there is ''国池QQ群:682534898'' in x.x.x.x:8085/main.html
then x.x.x.x is owned by Kale.
He is the owner of this QQ group.
02:35
Zack
It only blacklists for a few minutes
02:36
Jon Snow
catweed looks like block 24449 is not on veoscan
02:38
Pan
So, Kale has the BBCN & BK9Q pools, 59% power.
02:39
Jon Snow
Someone sold 0.4 veo around 14:00 pm UTC, but could find this transaction on veoscan , so the buyer refused to pay. This transaction was likely recorded in block 24449
02:41
Pan
It's not Aaron until Aaron is Kale.
See above discussion.
02:44
Branc
hej, 1 question, how can i access balance on my address? used
http://amoveopool2.com be4 attacks, now mining on 159....., but ballance ir, 0 veo...
02:44
I P
amoveopool2 will get restored soon
02:45
Pan
I'll stop to do help, there's no reaction.
02:45
O K
I appreciated the info Pan
02:45
It didn't go unnoticed
02:47
so, ballance will merge from am2 and 159...?
02:47
O K
Two different owners
02:48
Pan
OK, it's good, I'm busy on other things
☕
02:48
Branc
Don't really understand, its the same wallet address :)
03:08
I P
your wallet is safe with your private key
03:09
payout are made from the pool wallets to your wallets. if you mine on 1 pool and switch to other you get payed by 1 pool and the other but they don't "merge" in any sort
03:09
these payouts from different pool are independent, but of course they will be sent to your wallet
03:15
the only problem in switching pools is only if you mine 0.05 on 1 pool 0.05 on the other, mininmum payout on each is 0.1... but you will get zero. you will need to mne +0.05 on each to get your 0.1+0.1 payout
03:31
Deleted Account
Zack what's your take on the lawsuit against augur?
03:35
Zack
I think lawsuits are bad.
We have better tools for enforcing good behavior.
03:50
Deleted Account
would like to buy - wtb - pm best offers
04:02
Jurko | Bermuda capital 📈
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04:08
Jurko | Bermuda capital 📈
thank you for great work
04:10
Deleted Account
O K, any news on amp2?
04:11
O K
Finishing touches ✨
04:11
Deleted Account
Gluck 🤗
04:12
Deleted Account
Who's Kale / Aron ?
04:14
not sure about that kale tho
04:14
they are in discord
04:14
Deleted Account
how they have most of blocks ? solo mining ?
04:14
Evans Pan
Reborn? What changed?
04:15
Jurko | Bermuda capital 📈
04:23
Sy
chinese pool, 46 TH
04:23
its interesting tho that the pool seems to handle that hashrate rather well, nice work
Zack 👍
04:33
Zack
It has nginx in front of it, and aaron did a lot of modifications
04:34
Sy
yeah just asked for mining data
04:34
cloud flared aswell
04:41
Deleted Account
is it closed pool ?
04:41
so you have to find it yourself 😝
04:43
Deleted Account
i don't thing that one is chinese ?
04:44
Deleted Account
is it your's main pool ? 15% of network ?
05:07
Jurko | Bermuda capital 📈
05:08
Sy
He didn't set a port
05:09
And work or not doesn't matter, all work
05:09
Evans Pan
I tried a few times, none of them connecting
05:12
Deleted Account
Like what?
05:12
O K
Like ddos attacks
05:13
Deleted Account
Not a permanent damage
05:13
O K
I was half joking...
05:13
Zack
smart contracts
05:14
Deleted Account
I dunno, u feel people are gonna people always
05:15
Zack
people are going to people, it is true.
05:17
Deleted Account
I think I fixed missing / duplicate block bugs and reorganized database.
But when you make important transactions please use full node API.
Veoscan is still in-development service.
05:19
Zack
I recommend using the light node for transactions
05:25
Deleted Account
He wanted to confirm a content of tx. So I recommended to use full node's JSON API.
05:25
O K
Makes sense. The light node doesn't offer that functionality
06:38
Deleted Account
what is the address of amoveopool2 ?
07:02
O K
You'll see it when we find a block soon
08:01
O K
No blocks were ever found T_T
08:01
Minieep21
Oh damn...
08:54
Deleted Account
you found one 15 minutes ago, but it didn't appear in your pool stat...
08:54
O K
The comment you quoted was about the temp pool
08:54
The pool stat is specifically "confirmed blocks"
08:55
It will confirm, don't worry
08:55
which one is temp pool ?
08:56
O K
The block shows up in the pool stats once the block is considered confirmed by amoveopool2
08:57
You know how when you send money to an exchange but you don't get it right away?
08:57
Then after 30 confirmations it shows up?
08:57
The block on the stats page is like that
08:57
Deleted Account
ok, how many confirmations usually you need to consider block ?
08:57
I understand, for some coins it's about 100
08:58
O K
I believe it's set for 15 at this time
08:58
I would have to check the code, I'm not looking at it right now
08:58
Deleted Account
ok. sorry for disturbing
08:58
O K
Not disturbing :)
08:58
Thanks for pointing it out
09:43
Mr Flintstone
150 second blocks
09:44
Deleted Account
what's the target block time ?
09:45
Deleted Account
damn, next diff will rocket up
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10:11
Deleted Account
anyone can give amoveopool2's telegram?
10:25
I P
well but it is good, we want high diff. Makes blockchain more secure
10:30
Harmony is lifer • $ONE 🦄
Light wallet down?
10:31
Cant see my balance
10:34
I P
light wallet can't be down because each node has its own, if 1 node is down, you can use any of the other 20...
10:35
Harmony is lifer • $ONE 🦄
Can u send link pls. Cant see my balance :(
10:39
I P
http://veoscan.io use this to either lookup your pubkey on explorer or use any wallet on synced node
10:39
Harmony is lifer • $ONE 🦄
Thanks bro
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Deleted Account
do es anyone know if phams miner has an api function for stat monitoring?
12:33
Kale
Hello,
Zack we want to help u dev the asics miner
12:34
Deleted Account
How?
12:36
Kale
But i think we should build a strong community
12:37
@smubo investment,and in china can do these things
12:37
Tina
I agree with you
12:38
do you have some plan about asic for veo?
12:39
Kale
if we want to dev a asics miner,need zack's support
12:40
zack can't change the algorithm
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Deleted Account
I know someone building asics in university
13:18
But probably bitmain can do it better
13:21
I P
you can write to
@potat_o there is no dedicated amoveopool2 telegram group. by the way, amoveopool2 is up and running flawlessly
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13:35
Deleted Account
I'm on amoveopool2 right now and can't get my miner stable to save my life
13:41
Lite Wallet that is
13:42
Deleted Account
Thanks!
13:47
Zack
Now my primary server is back
13:47
so I will leave both mining pools going. I will delete the earlier message.
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Deleted Account
@potat_o Can you help me plz, i have veo on pending since the attack, still not recieved it
14:56
Deleted Account
wtb - pm best offer
14:58
Deleted Account
Very noticable for
http://amoveo.noncense.tech/ that AP2 is back up at least 🙂 Also we now ignore workerid's in the public key, all pending payouts have been transfered to appropriate non-workerid public keys
15:01
Deleted Account
i want to find big buyer of veo.keep long cooperate
15:02
come some honest buyer
15:38
Minieep21
@potat_o in your guide on mining setup, you should add the 'http://' to '
Amoveopool2.com/work'. Just a small change to make it easier for people to connect without having a brain fart 😂
15:44
Sy
http://veopool.pw frontend is back up, had to tweak some filters to get those 27 million requests per hour off my back
mining was never affected tho 😎
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18:08
Sy
http://veopool.pw web frontend is under constant attack for 6-7h now but the mining itself never stopped! 😎
18:34
I P
wow those ddos guys are rather persistent. i wonder who are they
18:49
Kale
sy,i want to share my miner wirh
18:49
because my always under attack
18:50
i want to use your pool code,and i can pay 2btc
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19:10
Oliver
The veo Symbol is similar to the house squatting Symbol.
19:30
O K
Great suggestion imalk, thank you
19:32
Alex
Haven’t looked at this for a while just wanted to say that the branding looks cool guys good work
19:36
Sebsebzen
What’s the amoveo algo specs again
19:36
Can I have it more precise?
19:47
Deleted Account
i want to find big buyer of veo.keep long cooperate
20:53
Sebsebzen
Cool thanks
22:30
I P
Guys... its bad, need mining decentralization
22:31
4 pools with 10-20% and several small pools
22:31
you don’t complain when china got 95% of the block
22:35
I P
I did... i told its bad
22:45
Mr Flintstone
lots of new hash rate can end up centralizing the network temporarily
22:46
at least there is a silver lining
22:52
though the response by the pool (2% fee active June 1) is a joke. this is decentralization theater
23:37
Deleted Account
Is amoveo using bitcoin-ng? Seem like AE is using bitcoin-ng
00:19
Zack
no.
I think bitcoin-ng is probably a bad idea.
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Jordan
@potat_o are you working on your pool? Its down again
00:53
O K
I am, thank you for reporting
00:55
Jordan
Cool figured you were installing cloud fair
00:55
O K
Cloudflare is up
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O K
Has it ever worked
01:45
What is "juniper" is that your onboard video*?
01:45
Try changing the platform ID argument
01:46
and platform ID is...
01:48
Did you install all dependencies?
01:51
I P
this question gets asked several times each day, peopl please learn to read
01:51
O K
It's the only coin that uses it as far as I know, or at least the first
01:52
I P
how on earth sha256 can be new?
01:53
hewwo
In Zack's world
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O K
I forgot, for AMD you need synckernel true
01:54
And maybe autolocal too
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I P
zack made it single sha256 so that it is literally one of the best known and simplest algo, he wants fast asic production and he has his point
01:56
Sy
the sync is getting slower and slower as we proceed through the blocks, i dont thin single files per block is the way to go...
02:11
See if the guys in
#mining on the discord can help
02:12
[Riki]
Virtual memory ?
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Deleted Account
p=0
03:01
Deleted Account
any problem with ap2 pool ?
03:03
Deleted Account
ok. thanks
03:03
Deleted Account
yes
03:04
O K
That is strange
03:10
Jordan
I'm getting the same time out
03:10
Miner is switching to back up pool
03:10
Webpage is showing old hashrate even though I'm not mining
03:10
Sy just mentioned that his pool was out of sync could it be the same problem?
03:11
O K
hashrates don't move right away, so that's not a good indication
03:11
I'm getting work, so it's strange that some people can't
03:12
It might be a cloudflare thing
03:15
Jordan
I get about 1/5 tries that connect, but it's not enough to keep veominer from switching to back up pool
03:17
I P
i did not set up backup pool on purpose and it works fine with ap2. actually, i did not setup pool at all- miner defaults to ap2
03:19
O K
403 error is not the usual error is it?
03:19
Jackie
Ap2 is working for me
03:19
O K
Someone who is having issues please pm your IP
03:20
Jackie
Did you add rig names to the address?
03:20
O K
Maybe I can whitelist
03:20
Jordan
No rig names
03:21
What miner software is working and which isn't? I'm using veominer 2.1 and it's getting error
03:21
Checking IP for someone
03:22
Deleted Account
do you mean we need to downgrade to 2.0 ?
03:23
O K
I don't mean that
03:23
I was just tellingy ou what was working for me
03:24
It was a cloudflare issue
03:24
Same problem with dkats miner
03:24
O K
it's confirmed not the miner, it's cloudflare
03:24
if you're having issues I can whitelist you
03:24
I will also refine the settings
03:24
To be not so strict
03:25
Jordan
Ok cool, I sent you my ip
03:26
O K
I just whitelisted
03:26
See if problem instantly resolved?
03:34
Guys, anyone getting 403, it's a cloudflare issue
03:34
Please PM me so I can fine tune this
03:37
Zack
I am doing 50 txs at once on-chain.
It is very different from the testnet.
So many tx are getting dropped.
03:39
Jax
2.49 GH/s with a 1070?
03:40
i am doing 5 tx every 10 minutes now, thats mostly working
03:41
Zack
There is a problem where high-nonced txs block low-nonced txs.
How about we make a new tx type that lets you spend to multiple addresses at once.
This way you use only 1 nonce.
03:41
so instead of 60 tiny txs, it would be one big one.
03:42
Jordan
Yes I can get up to 2.9gh with 1070. That 2.5gh is with 80% pl 120w.
03:43
Now the pool stats aren't showing for me. Tried refreshing multiple times
03:44
The page works, but when I look up my address it doesn't load anything
03:45
Sy
and only pay one fee? im in
03:45
fixing the original problem should be a priority too tho
03:46
Zack
I think interacting nonces is the major problem here.
It also makes cold storage a pain.
03:48
maybe it should be a tx grouper tx type. so you could include any tx type that can be signed by only 1 user. including oracle tx types and channel-slash and channel-timeout.
03:49
the fee is probably going to have to be the sum of the sub-transaction fees.
03:51
Jax
can you tell me your mem and core clock please
03:52
Zack
signatures are the biggest part of the tx, so if we group txs together, then they will be smaller. only 1 signature per group.
03:52
gh0stOo
ist there any ddos protectet pool for mining veo ?
03:55
Jordan
My core is at +200 mem is at -500. The core clock doesn't matter much cause the lower limit is restricting it anyways. Veominer settings are kv=2 b=512 n=15
03:56
Also with veominer I run a separate miner for different cards because they all require different settings
03:56
1070 ti 512/19 and 1060 512/10
03:57
Sy
Zackauto grouping same sender into your new tx type sounds like the perfect solution
05:04
Kale
we are in ddosing now
05:09
Jon Snow
Wondering what that 1hr 51% attack cost number is for Amoveo
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05:32
Mr Flintstone
minimum spend fee decreased to 0.00061657
05:32
O K
Brought to you by amoveopool2 DOT COM
05:38
Deleted Account
Hi guys, read the white paper and interested in helping the network. I'm a very small hobby miner. Would it be worth my time to start mining?
05:38
Deleted Account
Yeah Nvidia
05:40
Deleted Account
I understand it's all otc trading at the moment. But are you seeing better returns than eth or zcash
05:41
O K
Oh yeah for sure
05:43
Deleted Account
Ok I see you posted a miner and I saw some recent ddos attacks on the pools. Should I follow the GitHub instructions for mining, or are they inaccurate at this point
05:44
I think attacks are a very real possibility
05:47
Deleted Account
Much appreciated, thank you
06:27
Kale
we are underddos
06:28
Mr Flintstone
BK9 too?
06:31
we should hide our ip
06:31
and i always being ddos
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07:02
Deleted Account
I'll check back in a day or 2. Hopefully some pools will be open.
07:11
Kale
china pool has down
please mining in veopool
thanks
07:32
Mr Flintstone
veopool going ham
07:44
O K
There is a linux option on
veopool.pw, there is dkat's miner
07:44
I use phamhuong92's
07:45
Don't do this, it's not profitable
07:46
A random seed is a string of characters to provide entropy so you don't get nonce collisions when mining on more than one piece of hardware
07:46
I would advise against this. You wouldn't GPU mine on bitcoin
07:47
Topab
To mine in ap2, do we need worker ID?
07:47
O K
No worker ID needed
07:47
I'm not sure, maybe Monero
07:48
O K
No, it's competitive GPU mining
07:48
That's pretty good : )
07:49
What settings are you using?
07:49
Yes, that's not too bad
07:50
Did you experiment to get those values?
07:51
try b=256 and n=256
07:51
if it's better, keep that, if it's worse go back
07:53
[Riki]
no block for 34min?
07:53
Is this working OK?
07:54
O K
I think it looks pretty good, what miner is that?
07:54
This does happen from time to time, especially if a pool goes offline
08:02
Kale
someone attack us now
08:04
Topab
Yes, moving to ap2 and zacks
08:09
Topab
For this rig yes.
08:09
Was switching to ap2 and zacks but checked again and seems back to normal
08:11
Deleted Account
Is hashrate for a 1080ti over 4 GH/s?
08:21
O K
I don't know that it's ever been tried
08:41
Topab
Is there a place to see the pools hashrate? Good to know and siwtch pools when approaching 50% in one
08:41
Kale
maybe we should block other miner except china
08:42
O K
With 100 blocks a day and 1% fee you make 1 Veo per day
08:43
With 75 blocks a day and 2% fee you make 1.5 Veo per day
08:43
veoscan blocks page that is
08:48
O K
Yes, but you start to get a feel for which one is which pretty quick. They tend to cover different timeframes too
08:49
Topab
Thanks
@potat_o did not think of that
09:29
Deleted Account
CN Pool is down by CC attack, working on it right now
09:40
O K
Miner should keep reconnecting after sleep
09:40
Or you can use veominer2.2 which will switch to another pool for you
09:40
Deleted Account
how to set a card about 580?
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10:08
Deleted Account
hey guys,what’s the price now ?
10:11
Mike
$300 bid, $800+ ask, unknown real trades
10:11
H N
625 successful trade yesterday
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11:05
Zack
I am planning our biggest hard fork yet.
So that we can have multiple outputs in a transaction.
I am wondering how to merkelize the transactions. should each output of the tx be a different element of the merkel tree?
11:23
Deleted Account
When mVeo happens?
11:41
Deleted Account
HTTP Error 503.2 - Service Unavailable
The serverRuntime@appConcurrentRequestLimit setting is being exceeded.
11:41
Getting that on avp2
11:42
Is it because I tried to refresh too many times (wallet wouldn't load)
11:43
Mike
avp2 isn’t loading for me
11:44
I P
loads fine for me and mining works great
11:50
Deleted Account
So, does anyone know what the argument is for the new 2.2 miner to change the time that it retries the original pool?
12:42
Deleted Account
when?
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13:22
Toby Ganger
While you're at it with the hard fork can we adjust supply?
15:06
[Riki]
For what reason?
15:22
Toby Ganger
It's been discussed at length already so I don't want to dive into it again. Basically I'm just speaking about moving the decimal point for psychological reasons that make the price per unit more digestible.
15:32
[Riki]
i know about that. moving decimal is fine, no need to change supply de facto.
15:35
Sebsebzen
Supply is not same as decimal adjustment
Toby but it’s a good suggestion
15:35
However there has been also proposal to just adjust decimals in clients
15:35
milliVEO as standard display unit
16:47
Sy
problem is that this will just cause confusion
16:47
you have to update all light wallets, not everyone will update
16:48
first to send veo instead of mVeo boom
16:48
the only real solution is indead a hardfork and every balance *1000, reward *1000 IF we want to go this way
16:48
but its only a barrier to begin with, ppl will get used to it just like btc price
16:48
imho its a solution for the impatient "get rich quick"
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18:32
well...i guess 2400 rigs must be wrong then
18:33
Deleted Account
some rigs have the same issue. maybe you can whitelist my ip ?
18:35
Deleted Account
I sent you my ip in DM
18:35
those rigs have HiveOS, can't check the site
18:36
Sy
every rig can check the site
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Deleted Account
"Hi there, I'm working...@
18:40
I P
anyone else getting "exception in solution submission"? using amoveopool2
18:43
Deleted Account
Yes. Me too
18:44
Sy
so the pool is up and reachable
18:44
miner configuration error, update miner
19:03
quite a few out of sync lately
catweed yours too :)
19:03
Deleted Account
Hi guys how to solve error 58
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I P
damn my node too... switched ti
veopool.pw btw, works well
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20:07
Kale
How to antiddos?
20:09
Sy
cloudflare rate limiter
20:10
its no real ddos or cloudflare would trigger, its just a good targeted overloading of your services below ddos level
20:11
Kale
cloudflare only works when your IP is not exposed
20:11
Ask Zack to enable DNS for nodes
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Deleted Account
Veoscan switched to another IP. I'll update description.
DNS support in full nodes is good idea anyway.
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20:37
Deleted Account
https://www.crypto51.app this is interesting, I wonder what the price of a 51% attack on Amoveo would be. Was expecting BTC to be more expensive than $0.5M
20:39
Ah it was posted earlier already
20:53
Sy
@icekale then put some thought into your pool hardware setup...
20:54
im running more than 10 machines now...
20:57
Kale
Thanks for your help
20:58
i'm not sleep yesterday because the ddos
20:58
O K
You're not alone
21:08
Deleted Account
Thank you for people who kindly made donations to Veoscan recently. It's really encouraging.
I'll work on to improve this site.
22:05
Deleted Account
catweed Hi ,nice work on
veoscan.io, I am thinking embed your site into our pool's page, is it OK by you?
22:08
Deleted Account
No problem, it's OK.
23:15
Deleted Account
Thank you. you are generous
23:17
I P
to be frank with you this is a bullshit, you can't 51% attack btc for 0.5M$
23:18
first of all you will need to rent a lot of equipment, i don't see how you can rent that much asics to be honest, you can rent 2% at nicehash and maybe 1% from all other services, good luck 51% with 3% hashrate lol
23:27
I P
you can have it, don't require it
23:37
O K
I thought it had to be faster
23:37
I P
nice, can it run multiple gpus?
23:38
damn it need linux=(
23:39
Zack
@potat_o there is no dev fee if it is open source. so it is at least that much faster
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23:42
Sy
its faster than all miners anyway at least on the pool side which basicly counts -> more shares
23:43
with other miners i see the same or less hashrate and 10-30% less on the pool
23:43
yeah that criteria was stupid to begin with (no offense zack) because if someone actually had a miner that was faster than the current one all you would get is another devfee miner
23:43
O K
The open source version is not "faster" than the closed source version
23:44
Sy
the goal was to get a up to speed miner open sourced
23:44
Deleted Account
Good point, still a lot of them are cheap to attack just using nicehash
23:44
O K
I'm just reading the words, I guess all that matters is that the people who donated their shares are happy with their purchase
23:44
None of my business
23:51
Kale
@O K do u meet the Transfer failed
23:51
O K
What do you mean Kale
23:52
Kale
When pool pay to miner
23:52
always Transfer failed
23:55
O K
Are you talking about this, the transactions getting lost?
00:22
Mandel Hoff
I suppose this sort of happened today... I'm not sure how an Oracle would have decided if this came true or not.
02:24
I P
by betting large amount on the right outcome....? after it happened
02:26
Mandel Hoff
Yes, I was being a little snarky and a little serious about being interested in how an oracle would have handled the result of this.
04:02
J M
do markets for governance variables work like any other market?
04:03
I'd like to get the price to make an oracle to come way down
04:06
Mandel Hoff
Yes, that can be done. Technically, I'm not sure that's considered a market though. I think markets are off chain in channels.
04:50
I P
you need to open governance oracle and bet so that oracle price gets down
04:50
i know people were successful with minimum tx fee lowering which was also done through governance oracle
04:52
catweed , hey, sorry to disturb you sir, wanted to ask if (and when) do you plan to update veoscan section on markets/oracles?
05:31
J M
i see in the docs how to make a governance oracle but i'm confused about what happens after taht
06:21
Mr Flintstone
after you make the governance oracle, you can bet on the outcome you want
06:23
I P
yep you need to make it and bet on the right outcome, but if you confuse it or smb overpowers your bet- well, you won't get it done as you wanted=)
06:23
Mr Flintstone
one thing to note is that
Zack i believe plans to split the oracle initial liquidity variable into two: one variable for governance oracles and one variable for question oracles
06:23
and then set question oracle initial liquidity to zero
06:24
I think this is an extremely important way to increase amoveo’s adoption
06:24
currently, it is way too expensive to create a question oracle for a market. people won’t use it
06:25
I P
yep, i think governance oracle should be the same price as it is or even higher while regular one should be cheap, like 0.1 veo or smth
06:25
Mr Flintstone
or zero
06:25
I think zero works from game theory perspective
06:25
aside from the normal tx fees obviously
06:27
I P
i don't know if zero is a good choice, but lowering it to 0.05 should not be bad also
06:28
Mr Flintstone
as long as there is a small fee as anti spam measure then w/e
06:29
if I want to create a swap on the s&p 500 index, I need 19 oracles to create the price level
06:30
You can imagine that this gets expensive quickly unless oracle initial liquidity is quite low
06:31
I bet that if question oracle initial liquidity was zero from the start, people would be using amoveo to gamble on things right now
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07:28
O K
Yooo amoveo got mentioned on Blockchain Dynamics
07:34
They mention the low supply being interesting
07:34
Zack did you know about this?
07:38
That was a pretty nice review
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10:19
Deleted Account
hello guys, 20G / 12hours. is this mining income normal?
10:19
btw: I am a new minier of amoveo. this project seems very interesting to me.
10:21
I P
yes because it takes time to update your stats, they lag a lot
10:22
Deleted Account
👍thx mate
10:22
then i will switch all my hash power
10:25
is this project very much like augur?
10:27
Deleted Account
thanks. mate. i read through the white paper. i might read auguar 😂
10:27
my manager is fan of auguar...
10:27
I P
well this is not the whitepaper, this is actually a comparison of veo to other blockchain, including augur
10:27
Deleted Account
he likes the idea to bet in a p2p environment.
10:28
I P
bad for him actually, i don't think augur did it right
10:28
Deleted Account
haha. i might show the screen shot to him
10:29
wow. .. this comparison is ... unbelieveable
10:29
I P
please feel free to invite him here
10:31
I P
i see you are a fan of neo. i don't think neo also got it right (not bets in case of neo), if you participate in icos on neo you know why=)
10:34
Deleted Account
hm ... neo has not done anything about decentralization ...
10:34
this is pretty upset
10:35
I P
this and network gets rekt under load
10:35
Deleted Account
yes. there were a few dramas.
10:50
Deleted Account
i want to found honest big buyer to keep long cooperate with veo,pm
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13:57
Zack
Thanks for sharing.
I am disappointed they called it a voting oracle.
I am also disappointed they called it a special use case blockchain.
Amoveo is a turing complete platform. Almost any smart contract worth writing can be written on amoveo.
They didn't talk about how the smart contract platform is inside the lightning network.
14:17
Iridescence
You should send an email to clarify =)
14:54
CeloStarter Bandits
they didnt meant bad....
14:54
you should schedule a call with them
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18:19
Максим
What the algorithm amoveo use for mining?
18:19
0xminion
Modified SHA256
18:20
Максим
what the modifications?
18:20
0xminion
There is no asic ATM.
18:20
Максим
and its rentable for gpu?
18:21
0xminion
Don't think so as far as I know
18:22
Максим
you speak in gpu there is no point in starting?
18:23
0xminion
If you got your own hardware, then yes, you can mine it.
18:24
Максим
i have gpu and
18:24
if ASIC can mine a coin, then usually this does not make sense
18:25
0xminion
why? There is no asic ATMz....
18:34
Андрюхин
Со следующей сложности уже и на картах нет смысла майнить...
20:22
I P
from what point do we start to ban for such questions like 'what's mining algo' ? i see this each day, it can be 1 click searched here or simply reading 1st page in github...
20:24
O K
We need an faq on the github I think
20:25
I P
this is 1st page of github...
20:25
Deleted Account
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21:05
Bubba Neunzig
who is operating amoveopool2?
21:27
noob 2
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