16 March 2018
Z
05:22
Zack
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Maybe the easiest way is if you reinstall from github completely.
Make sure to save your keys.db file.
05:23
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There was a trade for 37 Veo yesterday for 0.212 bitcoin
05:24
Deleted Account
so like $47
05:24
too low!
05:27
i was thinking it would be more like $90
05:27
in due time i suppose
05:29
Deleted Account
$100+ at least
Z
05:30
Zack
We have better estimates on the cost of mining now.
3.5 gh/s is needed to get 1 Veo per day.
1 gh/s is about $10 per day, so it seems like it costs about $35 to mine 1 veo.
05:39
Deleted Account
when will total supply be announced?
05:40
and any idea on circulating supply at the moment?
OK
05:40
O K
Current supply is known,
05:41
about 10,260 I think
05:41
Deleted Account
so market cap at $47 would be ~500k
Z
05:41
Zack
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The governance mechanism determines the block reward. I cannot predict what the community will decide.
05:41
Deleted Account
that's what i mean by seems low
OK
05:41
O K
Not saying this means anything, but if you make some assumptions:
05:41
10 minute blocks
05:41
same block reward
05:41
6 months
05:42
Add another 30,000 to the supply, or 60,000 in one year
Z
05:43
Zack
10 minute blocks is 4000 per month is 48 000 per year
OK
05:43
O K
blocks or veo
Z
05:43
Zack
Right, it would be about 60 000 Veo.
OK
05:43
O K
πŸ‘
05:44
For the sake of fun, if we assume 10x price, say $500
05:44
after one year, about 70,000 * $500
05:45
Deleted Account
35M seems right
OK
05:45
O K
So, lots of assumptions
05:45
but interesting nonetheless
05:52
Deleted Account
very
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11:46
g61906
@Mandelhoff how do i send? i have puk but it's not a file to upload on amoveopool.com, thx
11:50
Deleted Account
is the block reward will be half in the future
MF
12:04
Mr Flintstone
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this is completely up to the community. neither you nor I nor anyone else knows for sure which direction the block reward will go
12:35
Deleted Account
sell 100veo for 0.8btc
N
12:37
NM$L
wow
JW
12:37
JZ W
I have a problem.My unpaid balance was 0.9 the other day.But why my unpaid balance is 0.49 now.
12:37
N
12:38
NM$L
In reply to this message
unpaid balance was paid
JW
12:39
JZ W
In reply to this message
But my wallet balance is 0
N
12:40
NM$L
It sometimes happend to me
12:40
I don't know why
12:40
I lost my 2veo
JW
12:44
JZ W
Oh
12:45
Maybe it's a mistake?
N
12:49
NM$L
You could ask @Mandelhoff
JW
13:21
JZ W
Ok thanks
16:53
Deleted Account
Where can I find the new pow algo?
17:41
Deleted Account
Ok got it :) who is bumblebee bat?
MH
18:14
Mandel Hoff
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Sorry, I don't know what made you think you had 0.9 unpaid balance, but the current 0.537 unpaid looks exactly correct. That address has been credited 0.001002 times of all the pool's hashes since you started on block 8004. That 0.001002 times the number of blocks the pool confirmed since 8004 is incredibly close to the .537 unpaid balance (there's a small variance for luck across blocks).
Z
18:15
Zack
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Me
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19:03
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
@Mandelhoff have you open sourced the new miner for the algo hard fork yet?
JW
19:10
JZ W
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Sorry,I don't the details,but my unpaid balance really 0.9 when I saw it last time. It's the pool have a mistake?And @windance said he have the seam problem. And I have another problem,why the hash rate jump a big gap.for example sometime 500mh/s,sometime 3gh/s.
MH
19:15
Mandel Hoff
Your hashrate is only an estimate by the pool based on your partial pow solutions submitted. Based on luck, sometimes your pow solutions found are much higher or lower so your hash rate estimates go up and down based on that.
19:17
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Yes, I have a 2.0.0.0 tool release for the pow. Do not use the new tool until after the pow change. The amoveo node and my pool will need some code changes when the change happens, so there will be some down time.
JW
19:17
JZ W
Ok thanks
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19:18
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
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Cool. And after the fork, the difficulty would remain the same right?
MH
19:19
Mandel Hoff
Zack would know - I think diff is unchanging. The mining tools run faster, so block 9k to 10k should be faster than now even with same difficulty.
Z
19:20
Zack
The number of hashes per block will remain the same.
Some miners will be able to make hashes faster after the change, other miners still run the same speed.
It sounds like Mandel's miner will be a little faster after the change.
JW
19:23
JZ W
How often the pool pay for the wallet
MH
19:24
Mandel Hoff
When unpaid balance hits 1.0 veo a payment is triggered.
JW
19:25
JZ W
Ok
19:28
If I have more vga card, I must open more cmd to do it?
MH
19:30
Mandel Hoff
Yes. The open source mining tool is one gpu per cmd currently
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19:30
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
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I have a script that can automate the process. PM me if you want
20:14
Deleted Account
Quick question for anyone that's here...
20:15
A friend and I are running the SAME EXACT setup mining AMOVEO and his payouts/hash rating has been much higher than mine consistently over a 24 hour period.
20:15
Right now I'm running about 4.89GH/s, he's runnig about 14GH/s
20:16
His payouts have been quite a bit quicker as well, getting roughly .4 to my .1
20:17
I've tried running without the suffixmax and with, I've tried overclocking, still sitting at the same
MH
20:31
Mandel Hoff
How many gpu? What address is yours? Are you using different seed strings per gpu? What to the local mining tool haha rates say and how does that compare vs your friend's rig?
20:32
Deleted Account
20:32
Across 4 cards (sorry about the lime green, easier to read lol
20:32
BL1E36AqEZHbGjRY9swUAr0gO142I0sOE46U4cH5IWB+x4XPkY8OyTz0+wE4nxvQO6L74QCNGJ36uYELIhb4kPs=
20:33
Each card is using a different seed
20:34
I'm running the above hash rate, he's running about 80% of that
MH
20:40
Mandel Hoff
Are you getting any (several) "Dupliate Nonce" errors on the console? What's his/her address? Did you say they are getting more or less pool credit than you?
20:42
Deleted Account
BGN1llT3FAQxtl+zEwEdJedD5daI9EHyGiy6DmbOWyrBtXIPFRAscjzoNhEFeCAwk1Mhdvcu8zrttwmn8FUI9dQ= <---their address
20:42
more credit
20:42
I haven't seen any nonce errors
OK
20:43
O K
Is latency a factor
20:43
Deleted Account
As far as my internet connection?
MH
20:44
Mandel Hoff
The pool does report he has about 2x the accepted hashes as your address and the appropriate amount of unpaid/paid veo assigned to each address.
20:45
Deleted Account
Is that over the last 24 hours or all time? He started mining about 24 hours prior to me
MH
20:52
Mandel Hoff
Yes, that's total - looks like he has been mining about 1.6~1.7X longer than you. Likely, he got more credit earlier than at current blocks due to increased competition (block rewards are proportionally split smaller now than when he started). That all seems to check out fine.
21:48
Deleted Account
My node crushed and block:height(). went to 0.
I run block_absorber:recover(full). and it seemed reading all the blocks.
read_absorb doneok
syncing with this peer now (amoveo_core_prod@vps42752)8> [-7,[-7,176,9,84,75],8080]

But after that block:height(). still gives 0.
What should I do next...?
21:56
Run make killall and make prod-clean and make prod-restart and it started absorbing all the blocks again.
But is there any other way to sync without downloding all the blocks from peer?
Z
22:02
Zack
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is it downloading headers?
22:03
Deleted Account
block organizer add
absorb block 8480
absorb block 8490
absorb block 8500

Is this adding blocks not headers?
Z
22:06
Zack
that makes it look like you have blocks and headers
22:06
Deleted Account
i just found my lost 0.7veo mined by CPU
22:06
lollllll
Z
22:06
Zack
api:height(). tells how many headers you have
22:09
Deleted Account
api:height(). has been always up to date. If I have blocks why block:height() is 0 after crush?
22:09
@smubo congrats!
Z
22:10
Zack
Maybe your dependencies are no good.
Try reinstalling from github into a new folder.
22:13
Deleted Account
I started running full node about 14 hours ago, so the code is up to date I think.
Anyway, sync is done and my node is running normally.
22:20
Deleted Account
Does anyone run a larger blocksize without crashing (than default) and do you notice and improved performance from raising the blocksize (sorry for the noob question)
MH
22:27
Mandel Hoff
Yes, the miner tool's default block size is probably too low for many of the higher end GPUs. The github page shows some suggested block sizes for several gpu models, but even those suggestions may not be optimal for you.
22:28
Deleted Account
Would have helped if I scrolled down lol
22:28
So I'm running a 1070Ti, don't see that listed, do you have a guess as to the best settings?
MH
22:29
Mandel Hoff
Sorry, I don't have a 1070ti, but others in the chat may be running that model.
22:30
Deleted Account
Not a problem :)
22:30
Anyone have a 1070Ti with modified settings?
22:47
Deleted Account
I based some settings off a 1080Ti and dialed them back a little per the readme
22:47
So we'll see what that does, I've almost doubled my hashrate already
MH
22:49
Mandel Hoff
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22:59
Deleted Account
AE will launch mainnet soon
23:04
only have 3veo in total
23:06
will 3000 zatoshi make me feel better?
23:21
Deleted Account
AE lacks oracle betting, state channel etc.
I guess it cannot be amoveo competitor.
MF
23:24
Mr Flintstone
what is the point of it then?
I
23:25
Iridescence
To provide a benchmark for Amoveo to reach😁
MF
23:25
Mr Flintstone
aside from a money making device
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23:26
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
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that's the point though
MF
23:29
Mr Flintstone
im sure it’s not the only point ae makes when they market themselves though lol
23:30
I guess I could just look myself instead of outsourcing it to you all
23:31
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you should think about it as having 3 block rewards
23:32
Deleted Account
In my understanding, their sales points are "mobile first" (pretty UI) and non-binary oracles.
MF
23:32
Mr Flintstone
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3 block rewards of bitcoin in the early days is 150 btc today right. This is not an insignificant amount
23:32
though it is important to note that we are not guaranteed a monotonic decrease in block reward
23:33
nor are we guaranteed a 10 minute block time target
Z
23:33
Zack
In reply to this message
Amoveo light node works on my phone.
23:33
Deleted Account
yeah
MF
23:33
Mr Flintstone
yeah I’ve only used it on mobile hahaha
23:35
Deleted Account
Adding some CSS, and then amoveo is perfect
I
23:35
Iridescence
^ actually
MF
23:35
Mr Flintstone
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they lack oracle betting but have non-binary oracles? Is the information source centralized?
23:36
Deleted Account
Everyone can transmit oracles to blockchain. So it's not reliable I think.
MF
23:37
Mr Flintstone
one suggestion i have for the light node is the ability to copy the signed message that is the signed tx. Then, there should be a tx push field in the light node that you can paste and send. This way, it is easier to use air gapped signing with amoveo
17 March 2018
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00:08
Pan
''If your Memory Controller Load is constantly at 100%, you may want to try lowering your NumBlocks.''
Here, the 'Memory' indicates GPU Memory?
How to decrease the CPU memory requirement for mining veo with GPU 750 Ti?
Z
00:34
Zack
In reply to this message
Yes. Cold storage updates are important.
M
00:40
Mike
is it 3.5 GH to mine 1 veo per day now? or is it 35 GH now? )
00:40
Deleted Account
I wish that was the case...
00:40
I'm running about 15-20Gh and I'm only getting a little over 1 per day
Z
00:43
Zack
It should be about 3.5 gh/s = 1 Veo per day.
00:44
Deleted Account
Have I done something wrong with my setup then?
M
00:48
Mike
no, I think it's just too difficult to mine now) if your friend with 14 GH gets 0.4 per 24h... then it is 35GH to mine 1 VEO
00:50
Deleted Account
Blah
00:50
Need more cards
MF
00:51
Mr Flintstone
You can just do the math if one block is 300 th
00:51
Deleted Account
3.5 gh gives 1 veo per day
00:51
approx
M
00:51
Mike
math is often broken here, you need to check it against reality
00:51
Deleted Account
i mne at that rate
00:52
Deleted Account
Then I really don't get it lol
M
00:52
Mike
@dontshoot619 more cards mean vicious circle
Z
00:52
Zack
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Yes. The math could still be wrong.
M
00:53
Mike
Taata does it give such amount now, or before the recent retarget?
00:53
Deleted Account
now
00:55
since block 8000
M
00:56
Mike
interesting πŸ€”
00:56
what miner/pool are you using?
OK
00:56
O K
In reply to this message
Decrease CPU is SuffixMax I believe
00:57
Deleted Account
amoveopool
00:57
use this
00:57
Deleted Account
Ah I'm on windows
00:58
Deleted Account
im bad miner telling other other how to do it xD
OK
01:02
O K
Helping others builds stronger community, and arguably helps you
01:02
Deleted Account
yeah! iri should also give his secret miner to all of us :P
OK
01:03
O K
His advantage won't last forever
I
01:11
Iridescence
My advantage is also not that much
S
02:23
Sy
rebar3 update & upgrade fixed the error, no need to reclone
Z
02:23
Zack
In reply to this message
cool
02:27
Deleted Account
when does the unpaid balance at mandels pool updates? is it when the block gets approved?
MH
02:28
Mandel Hoff
Yes, when a block becomes confirmed and you had submitted partial solutions for that block, then you get a proportional unpaid balance boost.
02:29
Deleted Account
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thank you πŸ‘πŸ»
AS
02:39
Aizen Sou
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Either u are super lucky or your math is wrong. No way u could get that much with 3.5Ghs
02:41
Deleted Account
That was my thought
02:44
Deleted Account
terahashes per block = 300
02:45
seconds in day = 86400
02:46
86400 * 3.5 GH/s is about 300 TH
S
02:48
Sy
Yep, Numbers are probably not that accurate
02:48
I got 2 blocks in 13h with 70gh
02:50
says hash rate is 880
02:50
you should get almost 10% wth that hahs rate of total reward
S
02:50
Sy
Yep
02:50
But I don't and I didn't before diff adjust either
02:51
Deleted Account
solo mine?
S
02:51
Sy
Everyone solo mines besides amoveopool so yes
02:52
Deleted Account
i use amovepool and get about veo per day with 3,5GH
I
03:23
Iridescence
Unless you have a few hundred GH/s or so I don't recommend solo mining
S
03:34
Sy
there are only a few hundred on the whole net...
03:34
if the numbers are right xD
03:53
Deleted Account
Is anyone running Tesla V100's in here?
M
03:56
Mike
Zach your tweet implies that Amoveo is broken?
03:59
Deleted Account
I'm confused as well
I
04:00
Iridescence
Oh is Kassel not running anymore?
04:00
I thought network was a few TH/s now
BB
04:00
Brian Brian
Rip
MF
04:03
Mr Flintstone
In reply to this message
no, the old calculation was incorrect. I think this is what you’re referring to
Z
04:04
Zack
In reply to this message
Amoveo is not broken. I don't know what Tweet you are talking about.
M
04:04
Mike
β€œAmoveo survived 2 weeks.”
04:04
Deleted Account
I
04:04
Iridescence
Hahahah
04:05
I think you misunderstood
OK
04:05
O K
Lol
I
04:05
Iridescence
I think Zack means that Amoveo has survived for 2 week so far
OK
04:05
O K
the word "has" would make it clearer
M
04:05
Mike
β€œAmoveo survives two weeks” or β€œAmoveo has survived 2 weeks”
OK
04:05
O K
Hahahaha
Z
04:05
Zack
How can I write "Amoveo survives" and people think it means that it died?
I
04:05
Iridescence
πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
OK
04:05
O K
RIP
I
04:05
Iridescence
RIP Amoveo
04:05
Deleted Account
You wrote "survived"
04:06
There we go
I
04:06
Iridescence
Survived as in "has survived", not "only survived"
Z
04:06
Zack
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ok, I made a new tweet and got rid of the old one. Thank you Mike for the grammar help.
04:07
Deleted Account
OK
04:08
O K
Here's to many more Zack
M
04:09
Marc
where can I find the invite link to this telegram chat? sorry. i am a telegram newbie.
M
04:10
Marc
thanks, mate.
Ben joined group by link from Group
PB
04:17
Phil Bonello
Haha I just checked in because I thought it was dead
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04:23
finex
Thx 4 invite
OK
04:23
O K
Welcome :D
B
04:26
Ben
sellings 41 veo for 90$ each ;)
O
04:28
Oliver
I buy for $30
OK
04:38
O K
I buy for $31
MF
04:53
Mr Flintstone
buy while you can still get that otc premia :)
Z
05:38
Zack
https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo/blob/master/docs/api/commands_history.md
I made a tool for scanning the blocks to look for any txs that involve your address.
S
06:07
Sy
my farm...obviously ^^
M
06:23
Marc
2 blocks daily with 22.5 GH/s here. since diff is at 300.
06:24
but maybe i was just lucky.
Z
06:48
Zack
I updated the light node so it only has a "spend" button now, no more "create account" button.
Spend works every time, even if the account does not exist yet.
I also made a tool in the light node for signing unsigned transactions.
06:48
And I upgraded the light node so it is ready for the hard fork at height 9000.
Z
07:16
Zack
I made a tool in the light node for pushing signed txs to the network.
07:16
I updated the server, so you can try out the new light node features now.
07:19
These new features make cold storage much easier.
07:19
you don't have to install erlang on your cold machine. you can just use the html files to run the light node.
MF
07:29
Mr Flintstone
cool! Thanks
D
07:40
Denis
In reply to this message
Mined with AWS p3 v100's before last retarget.
07:44
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
i running more than 200G,it is only about 13% of total hash
G
07:49
Gonzalo
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Great, ggod idea
OK
08:17
O K
πŸ‘Ό
MH
08:42
Mandel Hoff
Zack - looks like your 159.65.120.84 node went on a fork around block 8789 and isn't syncing. You show a different coin base for 8789 and that's where sync appears to have been lost.
Z
08:43
Zack
In reply to this message
thank for the warning
08:47
I think it happened because I tried updating the software without turning the node off first.
I thought it might be faster.
MH
09:24
Mandel Hoff
Whoever runs http://88.198.41.199 appears to have had a very recent soft fork they aren't recovering from too. They were sync'd when I reported Zack's soft fork, and they forked since then.
09:43
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
when the block reach 9000,is it must upgraded mining software to 2.0.0.0?
MH
09:45
Mandel Hoff
Yes
09:47
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
thank you .a hurge number of work to do
OK
09:58
O K
What's our best estimate for block 9000 time?
MF
10:00
Mr Flintstone
my guess is 9pm ET tomorrow
10:01
based on 7 minute blocks
OK
10:03
O K
Cool thanks
N
10:06
NM$L
what price now
10:45
Deleted Account
what's the hashrate of 1080 not 1080ti
11:00
Deleted Account
I've heard that a 1070Ti is similar to a 1080, and I'm getting 12.17 (current) on 4
N
11:10
NM$L
Sell some veo.
11:10
Deleted Account
I'll sell you 3 at $80 ea ;)
11:37
Deleted Account
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12.17 gh/s on 4 cards sli?
11:37
Deleted Account
Non sli
11:38
Deleted Account
12.17 gh/s?
11:38
or 12.17 veo for 4 days?
11:38
Deleted Account
I wish 12.17 for 4 days
11:38
12.17gh/s
11:39
Deleted Account
4 cards. ok i get it
11:39
that seems similar to 1080ti hashrate
11:41
Deleted Account
I wish I could rewind a couple days and get in a little earlier
11:41
Since about 9EST I'm sitting at .79
13:09
Deleted Account
Hey guys, where can I find the total number of VEO currently?Is there a tool for checking this?
13:10
Thank you in advance
MF
13:41
Mr Flintstone
We are at block height ~8.8k. it’s been 1.2 per block except for a period of I think 1-2k blocks where the reward was 1.7. So I think it should be like ~11 to 11.5 thousand?
13:46
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
ok, thank you very much! Appreciate you kind help!:)πŸ˜€
S
16:11
Sy
node kept synced over night...nice
Z
16:37
Zack
In reply to this message
Great
S
17:18
Sy
and there was the potential block died spam ^^
M
20:13
Marc
In reply to this message
That was me. I updated the node and I am on the right chain now.
D
20:22
Denis
In reply to this message
~3Gh per 1070ti seems much. It's more than 1080ti. Are you using Mandelhoff's miner or Iridescence's one?
20:25
Deleted Account
diff increase 4 timesπŸ˜…
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20:49
NM$L
In reply to this message
when?
22:27
Deleted Account
Zack Is there mining status available for every computer?I can't see the info when miner get problem.
Z
22:27
Zack
In reply to this message
I don't understand the question.
22:32
Deleted Account
hi zack ,the Pending Confirmation Payments should be in wallet balance when mining a block ?
22:32
22:33
long time no mining a block
Z
22:33
Zack
In reply to this message
I haven't used amoveo pool for mining before, I don't know exactly how it works. Also, I don't understand your question.
23:05
Deleted Account
Does anyone have a post 9000th block miner link (windows)
23:33
Deleted Account
Updated linux miner. Now the master branch is compatible with after block 9000 POW.
https://github.com/tumblecatweed/AmoveoMinerGpuCudaLinux/tree/master
Right before 9000, just git pull and rebuild the miner.
Warning: If you update now, you cannot mine on current chain.
MH
23:55
Mandel Hoff
Do we switch on 8999 or on 9000?
23:56
Deleted Account
just bought a 1080ti
OK
23:57
O K
Congrats
23:57
Deleted Account
let's roar
OK
23:58
O K
🦁
18 March 2018
MF
00:49
Mr Flintstone
blocks coming fast right now
M
01:03
Mike
If I’m going to be away from my rig for the next 3 days, should I open Mandel’s 2.0.0.0 miner and leave it running or let 1.0.0.7 run the whole time
P
01:04
Pan
Zack
is this your mining pool ?:
http://159.65.120.84:8085
G
01:29
Gonzalo
In reply to this message
Yes it is
01:31
In reply to this message
For a full 3 days probably better to run the new miner. You will lose only about 50 blocks pre-9000, but you will be mining ok after block 9000, that will be most of this 3 days
01:36
@Mandelhoff how do you count "active miners"? Distinct pubkeys or IPs?
01:37
A few hours ago there were about 75 miners, right now 125 😳
MH
01:43
Mandel Hoff
I think it's unique pubkeys in the last 15 minutes.
02:15
Deleted Account
So once block 9k hits, we just start using the miner and nothing else needs changed?
MH
02:18
Mandel Hoff
Right - anyone mining should just need to start using the new mining tool. The pools will have downtime to change over.
02:18
I'm not sure if we have to use the new pow to make block 9k or if the new pow makes 9001 as the first new pow block.
MF
02:31
Mr Flintstone
doesn’t the change trigger at 9000? So it would be for 9001 that you use new pow Zack
Z
02:38
Zack
I think the switch is between 8999 and 9000. But I am not certain.
02:57
Deleted Account
I'm hoping my luck improves on block 9k
J
03:05
Jim
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03:07
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
@Mandelhoff the source code of 2.0.0 isn't released yet? In the release tag it's still the same source code. I want to study the changes :)
Z
03:08
Zack
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Looks great
MH
03:09
Mandel Hoff
They are only minorly untested. I will release code after I verify it tomorrow or Monday. I wouldn't be surprised if I have make an emergency 2.0.0.1 patch. Catweeds code looks almost exactly the same regarding the pow change.
03:10
*minorly tested
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03:12
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
I see. Awesome.
MH
03:12
Mandel Hoff
Ok's alternate pool is up too. I should be able to stop operations in a few days at the latest.
Z
03:15
Zack
27 more blocks till the switch.
03:16
about 1 hour 45 minutes.
B
03:24
BG5EHI
03:25
Deleted Account
Anyone have any idea why a wallet I just generated is showing address not available
03:25
Yes same issue as above
B
03:25
BG5EHI
me too
03:26
Deleted Account
M
03:27
Marc
yes. i have the same problem.
03:27
my address: BF+9vXy9E16nn0SOxzzCvqlRqIOsl75tsc5A9z1/oV2vp7qAxWG9eCPwj582S0q0RFhzDLSmEybquYGcFxRNFWM=
03:28
Deleted Account
Give it a bit
03:28
Mine r working now
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03:29
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
Z
03:29
Zack
In reply to this message
that is a testnet for trying out the new mining algorithm.
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03:30
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
oh ok
03:48
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
What is the difference between the two graphs?
J
03:48
Jim
Linear vs log plot
03:49
Deleted Account
thanks!
03:49
great info by the way :)
04:13
Deleted Account
Anyone care to share optimal MSI afterburner settings for 1070TIs?
05:13
Deleted Account
Does anyone have an estimated time on the 9k block
05:21
Deleted Account
Okay for some reason I'm having a hell of a time finding the new miner for windows, can anyone drop a link for that?
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05:22
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
05:22
In reply to this message
there you go
05:22
Deleted Account
Thank you
05:22
and just to make sure this is for the post 9k block?
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05:23
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
05:23
Deleted Account
Thanks!
05:24
Damn, just realized...we have a shit ton of miners all of a sudden....went from 70 to 206
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05:24
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
download 2.0.0, but the pool server will take some time to be updated. need @Mandelhoff to give a green light
05:24
Deleted Account
For sure
B
05:29
Ben
the amveopool.com does not work for me anymore when i want to check my wallet i get only bad address
06:06
Deleted Account
Nearly there boys
MH
06:15
Mandel Hoff
Zack are you going to merge the pow branch to master for the node and pool when the change happens? Should I just need to restart, or do you think I'll need to sync from 0?
Z
06:17
Zack
the amoveo full node switches automatically. I dont' have to do anything. I wont switch the pool till a little after. you will have to pull the partial-hash-fix branch if you want to use it immediately.
06:18
Deleted Account
So should we switch now at 8,999?
Z
06:18
Zack
it is probably now. might be at 9000 though...
06:18
maybe we should wait 20 minutes, then switch
06:18
or Mandel can switch first, and I will wait a little longer with my pool just in case
MH
06:19
Mandel Hoff
That's hit 9k
06:20
I'm at 9k. We'll see if my node props it to you. amoveopool.com is down for transition.
G
06:21
Gonzalo
Im still at 8999
MH
06:22
Mandel Hoff
I wonder if I made blk 9k on the old pow. Not sure how to check something like that.
06:22
Deleted Account
any harm in running the 2.0 miner now?
MH
06:22
Mandel Hoff
I'l give my node another minute to try to push its 9k, otherwise I'll clean and sync to you at 8999 if my 9k isn't valid.
G
06:23
Gonzalo
ok
06:24
I have another node just syncing right now, will see where stops
Z
06:24
Zack
In reply to this message
this is probably what happened.
06:25
Deleted Account
I am running the 2.0 miner, will I need to restart, or just let her ride?
06:26
Not propagating yet
Z
06:26
Zack
I upgraded my mining pool.
G
06:27
Gonzalo
so Mandel is the only one at 9000
Z
06:27
Zack
but it is having problems.
MH
06:27
Mandel Hoff
In reply to this message
Probably can just let it run, but not 100% sure. Might be buggy.
AS
06:27
Aizen Sou
was block 9k found by mandels pool ?
MH
06:27
Mandel Hoff
Yes, but might be 9k on old pow - not really sure.
OK
06:27
O K
I switched to 2.000 miner getwork failed
06:27
I was getting getwork failed on old miner too, I had let it run till just now
MH
06:27
Mandel Hoff
Yes, I told IIS to stop until the node changes over.
G
06:27
Gonzalo
me too
OK
06:27
O K
Okay
G
06:28
Gonzalo
invalid header without enough work
06:28
Deleted Account
Is there a current pool that has successfully swapped?
Z
06:28
Zack
ok, now I got my mining pool working.
06:29
Deleted Account
pool url?
Z
06:29
Zack
In reply to this message
the mining pool was trying to connect to 3011, not 8081.
OK
06:30
O K
should node operators on 8999 be taking any action
G
06:31
Gonzalo
good question
Z
06:31
Zack
In reply to this message
the amoveo full node needs no change. it updates automatically. only pools and miners need to update.
OK
06:31
O K
thank you
G
06:31
Gonzalo
πŸ‘
Z
06:32
Zack
In reply to this message
you told what to stop? If you shut your mining pool off, we will be stuck here for a while.
06:32
Deleted Account
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hi mandel hoff ,i has't find any block for about 15 hours.and Pending Confirmation Payments too many veos,is it any problem?
06:33
G
06:34
Gonzalo
not the best moment to ask I guess ;-)
06:35
Deleted Account
πŸ™
Z
06:37
Zack
@Mandelhoff is everything ok? do you need help with something?
MH
06:37
Mandel Hoff
In reply to this message
Probably just normal spend txs getting lost. What's your address? - I can look up your payments to see what's up with them after this 9k pow is all settled
Z
06:37
Zack
@Mandelhoff please, lets get the pool fixed right now
B
06:38
Ben
zack what is the URL and port of your pool?
Z
06:39
Zack
MH
06:39
Mandel Hoff
I had to clean to get rid of the bad blk 9k. I did a fresh clone. Sync:start(). - but, no progress observed
B
06:39
Ben
thx
MH
06:39
Mandel Hoff
Did block:height(). go away? That's not working.
Z
06:40
Zack
the amoveo full node still has the command block:height().
MH
06:40
Mandel Hoff
Z
06:40
Zack
this fork does not change the amoveo full node code at all.
06:40
only the mining pool changed
06:41
Deleted Account
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BBX9SCEkXGydrhgfD37RfMORvcdn4D/TywJafXIrWvBjeqPQDLlzWg4l7fh7CGiI10rW1/UR2W10f38Jl5w/kfc=
06:41
thx
06:41
Deleted Account
What's the end code for pool url
06:42
just put the pool?
Z
06:42
Zack
In reply to this message
this error says that the genesis header doesn't exist in your database.
This is impossible, because it gets written when you turn on a fresh node.
06:42
In reply to this message
I don't know what an "end code" is. so I guess you should not use this.
MH
06:43
Mandel Hoff
Ok, I turned node off/on and syncing now - up to blk 410.
Z
06:43
Zack
http://159.65.120.84:8085/ here is a working mining pool.
06:44
Deleted Account
I'm try to mind off that pool, but getting get work 500 sleep and retry
06:44
Deleted Account
To mine on Zack's pool using AmoveoMinerGpuCudaLinux, please specify PoolType option like this.
./AmoveoMinerGpuCudaLinux <Base64AmoveoAddress> <CudaDeviceId> <BlockSize> <NumBlocks> <RandomSeed> <SuffixMax> <PoolUrl> <PoolType>
./AmoveoMinerGpuCudaLinux <Base64AmoveoAddress> <CudaDeviceId> 256 65536 12345 65536 http://159.89.106.253:8085 1
06:44
Deleted Account
mine*
06:45
I'm using the windows gpu miner
Z
06:45
Zack
In reply to this message
Mandel's pool and my pool use different API. Yes, listen to catweed.
06:46
Deleted Account
I think windows version does not support mining on Zack's pool.
06:46
Deleted Account
Gotcha
MH
06:48
Mandel Hoff
6800 and syncing.
06:49
My pool changes are ready to go. I have the amoveo-pool partial-hash-fix branch ready to go.
06:50
Deleted Account
git pull and sh build.sh sufficient to ypgrade catweed miner?
06:52
Deleted Account
yes
A
06:52
Adrian
http://52.234.133.196:8080/explorer.html pool has,current height: 8999, not 9000?
MH
06:54
Mandel Hoff
amoveopool.com is up for now.
A
06:55
Adrian
In reply to this message
your pool height at 8999?
MH
06:56
Mandel Hoff
Yes, I sync'd to 8999 and then started up the partial-hash-fix pool branch with updates to my pool code too.
A
06:58
Adrian
so 9000 is lost?
06:59
Deleted Account
Wait, does this mean POW change happens 9000, not 8999?
https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo/commit/46f20bf12ac9749bd31926be5f25b6e8845802c9
If so, we cannot mine block 9000 by partial-hash-fix.
G
07:00
Gonzalo
@Mandelhoff I switched to new miner and is working right now
OK
07:00
O K
New miner OK here too
G
07:01
Gonzalo
so I guess block 9000 has to be mined with new miner ??
O
07:01
OldPaul AmaZix
same here πŸ‘
MH
07:01
Mandel Hoff
In reply to this message
Z
07:01
Zack
In reply to this message
yes, seems like it.
MH
07:02
Mandel Hoff
Yes, - looks like you just have many payments that got lost and are being reprocessed automatically after they are confirmed to be lost. Some have already been "spent" 5 times. They will continue to get paid out until they are confirmed that a block accepted them.
07:02
I just got absorb blk 9k
07:02
Should prop any second.
07:03
Success!
MH
07:03
Mandel Hoff
πŸ‘
Z
07:03
Zack
In reply to this message
If you are able to get a tx included with nonce N, then no txs with a nonce < N can get included after.
So maybe you don't have to wait so long until you try making a pyament again.
07:04
oops, looks like I fixed the light node for 9001 instead of 9000.
07:04
ill push out a change momentarily.
07:05
Deleted Account
looks like its working!
Z
07:07
Zack
MH
07:07
Mandel Hoff
The browser miner is not functional - I may just get rid of that. I think my pool is fighting off a ddos'd by old miner tools spamming it. Oh well. It's up for now. I'll watch it close but need to step away a little while.
07:07
Deleted Account
New Gpu miner working for anyone?
07:08
Mine is running, but nothing found...
07:08
And no hash showing on the pool....
G
07:09
Greg
could someone sum up what changed with this hardfork please?
Z
07:10
Zack
In reply to this message
the thing that miners are doing work on is a little smaller now. This makes it simpler to write a miner, and less likely that someone smart wrote a better closed-source miner.

The way we calculate how much work a hash encodes is a little different now. the function is more smooth, which should help make difficulty retargeting more precise.
07:12
Deleted Account
i have a good luck for mine blk 9000
G
07:13
Greg
In reply to this message
thanks and good job!
07:13
Deleted Account
Great job!!
07:14
Deleted Account
just need to get over 9000
07:15
Deleted Account
Anyone have any advice for Mandel’s pool? I am running the new miner, but no hash is showing up
07:15
Deleted Account
:P
Z
07:15
Zack
MH
07:16
Mandel Hoff
I think my pool is up fine currently
Z
07:16
Zack
In reply to this message
my mistake
07:16
Deleted Account
The miner is running, but it’s not showing hash for me
07:16
Any ideas?
Z
07:17
Zack
did you update to the new miner?
07:17
Deleted Account
Yes
Z
07:17
Zack
9001!! looks good
MH
07:17
Mandel Hoff
Got screen shot and arguments used?
MF
07:18
Mr Flintstone
nice
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07:19
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
catweed is the new linux miner capatible with current Mandel's pool?
G
07:20
Gonzalo
both my 2 nodes at 9001
07:20
Deleted Account
Yes.
07:20
Deleted Account
Had to run, but batch files were identical and miner showed running 2.0
G
07:20
Gonzalo
great job people!
07:21
Deleted Account
πŸ‘
G
07:21
Gonzalo
My 2 1080 cards went from 1.4/1.6 ghs to 2.0/2.2 ghs
I
07:27
Iridescence
My 1080 gives 3 GH/s
07:31
Deleted Account
Dang I’ll have to figure out later
OK
07:35
O K
In reply to this message
🀣 πŸ˜‚
07:44
Should the partial-hash-fix branch become the master branch now?
Z
07:45
Zack
yes
M
07:54
Minieep21
1080ti getting 2.95 GH/s now
07:59
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
any specialized setting?
07:59
i can only get 2.3
Z
08:20
Zack
https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo-mining-pool/tree/shares
I made a mining pool with shares. and it has a web page so you can look up how many shares and veo your pubkey has.
G
08:26
Gonzalo
great!
P|
08:27
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
In reply to this message
😳awesome man!
08:29
Deleted Account
Great!
Z
08:34
Zack
I am installing the new mining pool with shares here, it is risky untested software: http://159.89.106.253:8085/main.html

So my old stable mining pool is still active on the node is has been on.
08:35
you can click that link to see the web page.
J
08:40
Jim
Are share difficulties static or dynamic?
Z
08:41
Zack
I don't know what that means.
J
08:41
Jim
Does it adjust based on hashpower of hardware?
Z
08:41
Zack
When a block is found, it distributes the reward to everyone who did work since the previous block we found.
08:41
but you don't actually get paid until you have 1 veo
MF
09:05
Mr Flintstone
Hash rate 1000 in last 20 blocks
Z
09:09
Zack
In reply to this message
It gives out about 512 shares per block, regardless of how powerful your miner is.
09:09
Per block found
09:28
Deleted Account
when is time for better UI of light node. and dapps?
09:33
Deleted Account
09:33
seem to have the right setup, but amoveopool not showing any hash... any suggestions?
MH
09:37
Mandel Hoff
Your block size arg is too high unless you have a v100. Try 128 and then increase it slowly
10:28
Deleted Account
1080 2.3g,1080ti 3.3g,p104 1.7g
I
10:30
Iridescence
1080 3G, V100 7G
10:55
Deleted Account
Just experimenting on peer status viewer.
Updating every 3 minutes.
http://185.117.73.74/amoveo-network-status
MF
10:57
Mr Flintstone
In reply to this message
cool
S
11:06
Sy
In reply to this message
http://78.46.149.239:8080 is mine if you want to add names :)
11:10
Deleted Account
@Simon3456 Added :)
S
11:10
Sy
that was quick ^^
11:11
block height 9046...im off to bed again
11:11
4 am ^^
11:11
Deleted Account
good night
I
11:18
Indigo
Guys, is there any chance to mine amoveo by linux Amd gpu?
11:18
Deleted Account
At least the # of miners dropped from like 210 to 138
I
11:47
Indigo
i'm used to mine VEO by AMD gpu in linux but since the hard fork, I couldnt mine anymore. is there any chance or I have to wait for the AMD version?
J
11:47
Jim
Added a blocktime plot to https://jimhsu.github.io/amoveo-stats/
M
11:47
Mike
In reply to this message
You had an AMD miner?
I
11:48
Indigo
yeah :(
M
11:49
Mike
Why the sad face. At least you got to use ur AMD cards. I’ve been stuck using the single nvidia I have
11:49
Would have a lot more VEO if I had an AMD miner before lol
11:49
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
Nice work!
N
11:51
NM$L
In reply to this message
what's your 1080 settings.
I
11:51
Indigo
In reply to this message
lol, seem i'm still lucky, anw using nvidia is easier to setup mine VEO
12:22
Deleted Account
12:22
Well that's interesting
JW
12:29
JZ W
@Mandelhoff hi,If I use more vga card for one address, how to set them
12:29
Deleted Account
You have to create a new batch file to run per card, and assign a different random seed
JW
12:38
JZ W
Thanks,I know create a new cmd but can I use "amoveogpuminer.exe address 2"?
12:41
RandomSeed is optional. Set this if you want multiple miners using the same address to avoid nonce collisions.
12:42
Should I set this
J
12:48
Jim
In reply to this message
Added a difficulty predictor just for fun. I think I’m done now :p
I
13:01
Indigo
In reply to this message
Guys anyone please answer to me :(
13:03
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
my 1080ti only get 2.3g
13:05
why there are 120 miners now. There is only 70 miners days ago
I
13:07
Iridescence
Amoveo becoming more popular
13:30
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
sure,mine veo become more diffcult
13:38
Deleted Account
any idea how to get my node to sync past block 8999 ?
13:39
seems to be going through peers but stuck at 8999, on the latest github commit - I can use master branch, right? don't need to checkout partial_hash_fix?
13:42
oh well, fresh restart again πŸ™‚
Z
14:27
Zack
In reply to this message
Great. Thanks for he help Sy
14:28
In reply to this message
What software did you use? Link to github and we can try to upgrade it.
14:31
In reply to this message
Yes master branch.
It is tricky to update dependencies. It is easier to just reinstall from github to a new folder.
14:32
Deleted Account
clean install worked, thanks!
Doug Beitz joined group by link from Group
S
16:05
Sy
In reply to this message
thats always the least favorite solution to any problem tbh
16:05
usually a make-clean make-prodrestart fixes syncing issues
16:05
make prod-clean
make prod-restart
16:05
Deleted Account
@Mandelhoff can you make your pool show miner result that just type in a url.
16:07
then I can save it to my browser and review it buy just a click
16:20
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
http://amoveopool.com/miner?address= you can write your address behind =
JW
17:01
JZ W
17:01
What's going on here?
17:02
And the pool hash is 0k/s
Z
17:30
Zack
In reply to this message
There was a hard fork that changed the mining algorithm. You need to update your miner.
N
17:33
NM$L
Zack when will next diff adjust?
S
17:37
Sy
10k as usual
17:37
every 2k
17:37
@Mandelhoff pool running fine?
17:39
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
hi mandelhoff ,i have transfore 10 veo to others from mandslhooff wallet ,but the tx can not be seen on explorer
17:39
In reply to this message
i think it has some problem
S
17:41
Sy
it is finding the blockls tho
17:42
so its just the frontend / payout script, np
17:59
Deleted Account
18:00
any one the same?
N
18:05
NM$L
I lost my Pending Confirmation Payments again!!!!
18:09
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
i miss about 20 veo too
N
18:09
NM$L
why?
18:10
I see 1veo Pending Confirmation Payments . When it comfirmed, my balance don't show it.
18:10
18:11
I lost 3veo in all
18:13
Deleted Account
18:13
18:14
only total pay changed ,wallet balance on change
18:14
no change
G
18:20
Ghadras
Same here. Paid but wallet shows same balance
N
18:21
NM$L
+1
Z
18:21
Zack
BPhxAD7sODGh8DYdgpZsdQYzjiusZr+vf5WqhhQq1cXHleuwsmah2N8RF/G/3tmGJlZCapete8HPaLeF4rUQCnM=
This account mined 1 share in my new pool.
You can see in the website: http://159.89.106.253:8085/main.html
18:22
This is open source share based software, so we can all run mining pools with shares now.
N
18:24
NM$L
Zack Could you help us?
Z
18:24
Zack
Mandel's software is closed source. I have no idea what is going on.
18:25
If you mine on my mining pool instead, then I could help you.
N
18:25
NM$L
In reply to this message
Now, my balance shows correctly
18:25
In reply to this message
your pool link?
18:26
Deleted Account
Zack Is there any gpu mining for your pool in windows?
Z
18:27
Zack
I do not have windows to test this out.
I have only ever written a single api for mining pools. So any software that has worked with any of my mining pools in the past will continue to work for this mining pool.
18:28
I wrote this miner in C which can connect to my mining pool: https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo-c-miner
G
18:38
Gonzalo
In reply to this message
18:38
both mine :)
18:38
very cool!
Z
18:40
Zack
In reply to this message
cool tool.
you labeled the wrong one as me.
I run these two: http://159.65.120.84:8080/wallet.html
http://159.89.106.253:8080/explorer.html
18:41
In reply to this message
please share the software you used to mine AMD, and we will upgrade it for after the fork.
G
18:50
Gonzalo
In reply to this message
- go to http://amoveopool.com/miner
- at "Miner Address" put your pubkey
- then at "Miner Details" you will have your url + pubkey
Z
18:51
Zack
I updated the mining pool to try and be compatible with Mandel's closed-source API.
http://159.89.106.253:8085/main.html
So maybe you can mine using Mandel's Windows miner now.
G
18:51
Gonzalo
In reply to this message
not that easy, pubkey has to be URLencoded
19:07
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
Sorry, someone told that was your node. FIxed.
G
19:08
Gonzalo
G
19:08
Gonzalo
OK
O K 06.03.2018 22:40:35
My node is syncing too 159.65.173.9
19:08
Deleted Account
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Ok updated now
Deleted joined group by link from Group
G
19:11
Gonzalo
😁
RC
19:17
Rud C
19:17
friends what does this mean
19:17
?
19:17
can't i do it with my laptop?
S
19:24
Sy
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Your browser does that on its own tho
RC
19:33
Rud C
hey can i use a laptop to mine ...sorry for being noob.
JW
19:41
JZ W
"RandomSeed is optional. Set this if you want multiple miners using the same address to avoid nonce collisions. "How can I set this when I use more vga card for one address?
G
19:47
Gonzalo
In reply to this message
ops yes you're right πŸ‘
S
19:55
Sy
You just have to convert it back in script
JW
20:18
JZ W
How much is amoveo altogether
MH
20:20
Mandel Hoff
In reply to this message
That is the cpu miner. It was not yet updated for the pow change so it does not make valid shares currently
Z
20:21
Zack
In reply to this message
I think the market cap is around $0.75 million.
JW
20:22
JZ W
Ok
MH
20:23
Mandel Hoff
In reply to this message
Your wallet will show the balance boost long before the In Processing payment is confirmed and included in Total Paid.
JW
20:24
JZ W
And how much coins of amoveo
Z
20:24
Zack
around 12 000
MH
20:24
Mandel Hoff
In reply to this message
Spend txs often get lost by the amoveo network. That's not due to the pool or light wallet js.
Z
20:25
Zack
In reply to this message
it might be due to the pool. I haven't been losing txs when I use the light node connected to my full node.
JW
20:27
JZ W
@Mandelhoff excuse me,"RandomSeed is optional. Set this if you want multiple miners using the same address to avoid nonce collisions. "How can I set this when I use more vga card for one address?
20:31
AmoveoMinerGpuCuda.exe <Base64AmoveoAddress> <CudaDeviceId> <BlockSize> <NumBlocks> <RandomSeed> <SuffixMax> <PoolUrl>
JW
20:37
JZ W
I'm sorry,I don't know what's the value I can set for RandomSeed.πŸ˜„ΰ½½
MH
20:39
Mandel Hoff
Any string. Put your name there and 1 2 or 3 for each gpu like: jzw1 and jzw2 and jzw3
Z
20:39
Zack
I am making a hard fork for height 9900.
The block displays the current total number of veo, but currently it is being calculated incorrectly.
This hard fork will fix it so it will show the correct market cap of Amoveo in Veo.

This is a small change. you will need to update your full node before height 9900.
20:41
This is only important for @Mandelhoff since he runs the only mining pool.
20:42
Since this feature was his idea, I think he will be willing to participate in the hard fork to fix the feature.
MH
20:43
Mandel Hoff
Just git pull on master for the node and restart before 9900 so it automatically works? Will do.
Z
20:43
Zack
In reply to this message
you got it. Thank you Mandel.
JW
20:46
JZ W
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Ok thanks
OK
21:02
O K
In reply to this message
Indigo, can you share your AMD miner that used to work with the community, and maybe we can fix it to work now?
21:05
Z
22:25
Zack
http://159.89.106.253:8085/main.html
I changed the protocol for this mining pool. maybe now it is compatible with Mandel's miner.
23:07
Deleted Account
anyone knows arcblock project?
MF
23:08
Mr Flintstone
In reply to this message
no
23:18
how many times per day are people’s nodes crashing now?
Z
23:43
Zack
At this point Mandels strategy is becoming an attack against amoveo.
So I think we should try and ddos his mining pool.

Mandel wrote a gpu miner, which is good, but it only knows how to talk to his closed source pool. And Mandel is not publishing any details about the Api.
So 100% of mining power is in his pool.
This is not decentralized, and could result in the network shutting down.

So, unless Mandel publishes the details of how his protocol works between miners and the pool soon, we will have to attack.

I might release software soon so that everyone else can help me to attack his pool.
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23:45
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
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DDoS is a crime. You should be very carefull with word choice here.
23:45
The logical thing to do is to develop a better mining software and incentivise people to use your pool
23:46
not trying to attack one that's more popular than yours
23:46
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
we should set up more pools
Z
23:46
Zack
Or we can threaten to hard fork to delete Mandels funds.
23:46
Deleted Account
more than 3 pools
23:47
ask him to open source
23:47
hard fork to delete funds is malicious
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23:47
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
Can't someone just write a better mining pool?
23:47
his mining software is already open source
OK
23:47
O K
Hi guys, I'm taking over amoveopool here shortly. I plan to split the mining pool at least in two and put some redunancy too
Z
23:48
Zack
I wrote a mining pool with shares, but no one can use it because all the miners only know how to talk in Mandels closed source protocol.
23:48
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
is that true
OK
23:48
O K
Yes @Mandelhoff can confirm
23:48
Amoveopool2.com is already up
23:48
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
split into three pls
Z
23:48
Zack
That doesn't solve the problem.
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23:48
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
In reply to this message
Mandel's miner is open source. You could fork and make it compatible to yours.
Z
23:48
Zack
We need he miner protocol to be open source.
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23:49
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
The protocol is open source already
Z
23:49
Zack
Where?
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23:49
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
you could read it in Mandel's software
23:49
not documented though
23:49
I can write it up if you want
Z
23:49
Zack
Software that I cannot run on my machine is worthless to me
23:50
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
set amoveopool2 1.5οΌ… fees
OK
23:50
O K
That doesn't solve the problem
23:51
Deleted Account
we need someone to set a brand new pool out of mandel control
Z
23:51
Zack
The language that the miners and the mining pool use to communicate together needs to be open source.
23:51
In reply to this message
False.
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23:52
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
In reply to this message
@Mandelhoff I think you can write it up in 5 minutes. Please do.
OK
23:54
O K
Has nanopool or ethermine open sourced their backend?b
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23:54
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
In reply to this message
I don't mine on your pool because your software doesn't run better than Mandel's and has no proof that I'd bring me more profitability.
Z
23:54
Zack
In reply to this message
I am not asking you to open source a back end.
23:56
In reply to this message
https://eth.nanopool.org/api

Nanopool has an open source API. this is exactly what we need out of Mandel's pool.
OK
23:56
O K
Please give us the benefit of the doubt during the transition before you start "attacking" people who contribute to your community and network. I look forward to making improvements to the pool that will benefit everyone.
23:57
Okay, I will look into it. I haven't received any messages from you here publicly or privately.
D
23:58
Denis
In reply to this message
But catweed's Linux version of Mandel's miner can work with any pool, isn't it?
OK
23:58
O K
Mandel will still be working for us, so he can assist if that's the right decision. He's busy with church and charity work and I'm spending time with my family.
19 March 2018
00:00
Deleted Account
how to point catweed to zack pool?
00:00
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
It is just a worry about 51οΌ… attack.
It is a common worry in blockchain world. We all know you and mandel make a great contribution to amoveo
00:01
set up at least two more pools. Let's make amoveo more healthier
00:01
Deleted Account
00:01
that wont work
D
00:02
Denis
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./AmoveoMinerGpuCudaLinux <Base64AmoveoAddress> <CudaDeviceId> <BlockSize> <NumBlocks> <RandomSeed> <SuffixMax> <PoolUrl> <PoolType>

PoolUrl is optional and defaults toΒ http://amoveopool.com/work
PoolType is optional. Specify 0 (for amoveopool.com) or 1 (for amoveo original mining pool). Default is 0.
00:02
Deleted Account
Yes, please specify all options.
00:03
Deleted Account
ok
00:03
think im mining for zack now
00:04
Deleted Account
Zack, please calm down. Talking about staging attacks within this small community is really bad for the future of Amoveo. I guess...
00:05
Deleted Account
yeah zack is dictator xD
Z
00:05
Zack
In reply to this message
You think that if we all play nice Amoveo will grow up strong?
I disagree.
I think blockchains are strongest if we are trying to attack each other's nodes all the time.
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00:05
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
Mandel's pool Protocol

Method: POST
Content-Type: text/plain

The pool takes all the command in JSON. You can do 2 things with it.,

1. Get miner data
Request body:
["mining_data", "<pubkey>"]


Server's response:
["ok", [-6, "<BHhashBase64>", "Block Difficulty", "Share Difficulty"]]


2. Submit work
Request body:
["work", "<nonce>", "<pubkey>"]


Server's response if valid work:
[-6, 102, 111, 117, 110, 100, 32, 119, 111, 114, 107]


Server's response if invalid work: (note that this doesn't comply with JSON spec here. Just plain string)
<Error message>
00:06
Sorry, just 2 things
00:06
G
00:06
Greg
In reply to this message
I agree that the centralization thing is bad but the miner is open sourced, so we only need a Windows port to be able to mine on the open source pool
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00:06
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
@Mandelhoff Please verify
Z
00:07
Zack
In reply to this message
Great.
this line is the one I couldn't solve by trial and error:
"ok", [-6, "<BHhashBase64>", "Block Difficulty", "Share Difficulty"]]
00:08
Deleted Account
zacks pool has nice ui where to follow progress?
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00:09
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
I don't really know what the BHhashBase64 is. But I think you could reverse engineer it from the code: https://github.com/Mandelhoff/AmoveoMinerGpuCuda/blob/master/poolApi.cpp#L96
Z
00:09
Zack
In reply to this message
http://159.89.106.253:8085/main.html this is the UI for the shares pool I am making
00:10
ok, I restarted the shares pool. hopefully it is now compatible with both the original mining api, as well as Mandel's api.
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00:11
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
In reply to this message
This might be not good enough when people compare it to Mandel's UI. Not sure if that's the deciding factor though.
00:11
Deleted Account
nan shares
00:11
ok 1 share now
Z
00:11
Zack
In reply to this message
It doesn't matter if people use Mandel's pool or a competitor. What is important is that miners have the ability to switch quickly if Mandel's pool should break.
00:12
In reply to this message
awesome. you did this with Mandel's miner?
00:12
I already know that it works with the original api.
00:12
Deleted Account
catweed
Z
00:12
Zack
catweed does both versions right? so did you do it Mandel mode?
00:12
Deleted Account
pooltype 1
Z
00:13
Zack
what does that mean?
00:13
Deleted Account
PoolType is optional. Specify 0 (for amoveopool.com) or 1 (for amoveo original mining pool). Default is 0.
00:13
Deleted Account
Yes. I'm also already mined at Zack's pool some time before.
Z
00:14
Zack
well, we already know it works with the original API. we are trying to find out if we have successfully uncoded Mandel's api
00:14
Deleted Account
looks like it hhmm
MH
00:14
Mandel Hoff
In reply to this message
My api protocol has been documented on the pool since before launch. The miner code is on github if you care to read how the api works too. The api json is not at all secret. I will catch up with this conversation after I finish work at the food shelf this morning.
00:14
Deleted Account
was not working earlier
Z
00:18
Zack
http://amoveopool.com/
It is in the "getting started" section.
Thank you @Mandelhoff for saying.
00:24
Deleted Account
Still, I think coorporation is more rewarding than attacking each other sometimes.
You could just ask Mandel and get the answer.
But maybe just I am not adaptive in cryptosphere.
MF
00:25
Mr Flintstone
I think cooperation facilitates a more sustainable community at least in the early stages
Z
00:25
Zack
I have brought up this issue several times recently.
This time was more successful because I got a response.
00:25
Deleted Account
Hmm...
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00:26
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
In reply to this message
Did you ask "Hey man, what's your pool API? Can you give me the link"?
Z
00:26
Zack
the squeaky wheel gets oiled.
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00:26
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
try that
00:29
Deleted Account
If I was new to amoveo and only saw these conversations, I think I just stopped investing or participating. At least for the time being.
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00:29
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
In reply to this message
You don't have to be new I think ;)
00:29
Deleted Account
Indeed.
MF
00:32
Mr Flintstone
buying veo
00:32
hit me up
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00:33
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
In reply to this message
So anti-climatic man πŸ˜‚
00:33
Deleted Account
lol
MF
00:34
Mr Flintstone
please if anyone feels as though their capital has suddenly become misallocated I am more than happy to provide liquidity
Z
00:36
Zack
If we hide Amoveo's short comings, then we will never overcome them. It is better that we openly complain when things go wrong.
00:44
Deleted Account
Thank mandel and his team for their efforts in maintain pool
MH
00:49
Mandel Hoff
In reply to this message
Confirmed. I will be stopping my pool operations hopefully soon and OK's pool is recommended
00:52
In reply to this message
Yes. This looks accurate. Thank you for posting this.
M
01:00
Minieep21
Should we transition to Amoveopool2 now?
MH
01:08
Mandel Hoff
Yes, please do use amoveopool2.com and stop using amoveopool.com
M
01:10
Minieep21
Doesn't recognise my address for some reason
MH
01:11
Mandel Hoff
http://amoveopool2.com is acting like the node crashed. OK will need to check on that. I don't have node access there.
M
01:13
Minieep21
catweed Any changes need to be made to Linux miner settings? Getting low difficulty shares quite often
OK
01:21
O K
#2 node had crashed, restarting now
M
01:25
Minieep21
Do we need to change any miner settings for amoveopool2?
OK
01:25
O K
In reply to this message
It should be noted that the number one reason the pool breaks, as far as I can tell, is node crashing
01:26
You will need to specify http://amoveopool2.com/work as the final argument until the miner is updated
01:27
After March 20, we will be able to transfer the other domain as well, and I will be setting up redundant servers
MH
01:31
Mandel Hoff
Right, just the miner url argument changes for amoveopool2.com
M
01:31
Minieep21
Node still down? Nothing happening when I enter that URL
OK
01:32
O K
It just finished syncing
01:32
Let me check my miners in the other room
M
01:33
Minieep21
Ok seems to be up now
I
01:36
Iridescence
In reply to this message
That's was me! =)
01:36
I think something is wrong though, I think I mined more than one share
D
01:36
D
Is anyone actually doing anything more than mining this coin?
G
01:38
Gonzalo
Yes Im drinking coffe
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01:38
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
In reply to this message
I'm taking a bath
G
01:38
Gonzalo
πŸ˜‚
D
01:38
D
Yeah pretty much
J
01:40
Jim
Made stats for the network, more ideas welcome
D
01:41
D
In reply to this message
I mean to ask if anyone is actually using the network. Zack has a document about how blockchain stops producer raping people, but how will miners prevent that?
I
01:41
Iridescence
In reply to this message
I have made my miner compatible with Mandel's pool, the protocol is listed on the website
G
01:41
Gonzalo
G
01:41
Gonzalo
OK
O K 06.03.2018 22:40:35
My node is syncing too 159.65.173.9
I
01:41
Indigo
Hi, i got a share software from my friend, I dont know where he got it, I can't share to public here, DM me
OK
01:42
O K
Yes Gonzalo
G
01:42
Gonzalo
great
Z
01:43
Zack
In reply to this message
I deleted the database accidentally. you were the only one with shares at the time, and you only had a few.
I fixed it so the database wont delete any more, and now someone has mined a block and hundreds of shares.
I
01:44
Iridescence
Ok, sounds good
M
01:45
Minieep21
I've kept the same settings for 1080ti and P100. P100 gettings low difficulty shares whilst 1080ti doing well
Z
01:47
Zack
I feel like there isn't enough time left to make it worth betting on the difficulty at height 10000. So I should make a market for 12000.
01:47
What is a good under/over for then?
01:48
2.7 petahashes per block?
OK
01:49
O K
What's that %
Z
01:50
Zack
we are currently at 300 th/block, but we are mining blocks almost 3x faster than normal
01:50
so it seems like going up 9x is reasonable?
OK
01:51
O K
That's a fun bet
01:52
Deleted Account
I am still working off the default pool address, do I need to switch to pool2 even though pool1 is still working for me
01:52
Sorry for the noob question
S
01:55
Sy
is this nonsense sorted? i went away for 2 hours and see zack declaring to commit at least one crime and in the next post do one of the most stupid things ive ever read...
01:56
there are TWO miners who are open source who talk with mandels pool so how is it a problem to make your own pool answer in the same way?
01:56
btw im selling, pm me if interested, dont bother below 60$
OK
01:57
O K
In reply to this message
It's okay to use the one you're using for now but plan to switch in the next few days
Z
02:02
Zack
In reply to this message
I believe that my pool at http://159.89.106.253:8085/main.html is now compatible with both miners, but I think no one has tested it yet.
02:02
it uses shares to distribute a single block to many people
S
02:05
Sy
I can try after I've eaten
Z
02:08
Zack
VQjYhAnvoMju2MC/FN9FKLYShtkIAeKNNWatH9qcxJA=
Here is the ID for the new oracle. At height 12000 it will begin telling us if this is a true statement: <<"Amoveo's difficulty is above 27000 th/b as measured by explorer.html at height 12001">>
OK
02:11
O K
D ^
Z
02:11
Zack
you can see a graph of the current bets in the market here: http://159.65.120.84:8080/explorer.html
It is empty because no one has bet yet.
02:12
to make a bet, first use the light node to make a channel with this server http://159.65.120.84:8080/wallet.html
02:12
I have about 10 Veo of liquidity on the server, so don't make any massive channel, otherwise you will use up all the liquidity and no one else will be able to participate.
02:14
Your channel needs to be able to be open for at least 4000 blocks for you to be able to participate in the market.
02:21
I am having trouble making a channel. it seems like the fee is being calculated different in the light node and full node.
02:24
ok, I found a fix and made a channel.
02:25
the new_channel tx is sitting in the tx pool.
02:25
Deleted Account
Sorry to sound like a noob, but can your pool be used with a windows cli miner?
Z
02:26
Zack
In reply to this message
http://159.89.106.253:8085
This one might be able to. Please try it out and tell me
Here you can see your progress:
http://159.89.106.253:8085/main.html
G
02:28
Gonzalo
In reply to this message
testing now, It seems like is working
02:28
Deleted Account
noob q: i run full node but seems i gotta ask for headers manually to keep in sync?
Z
02:29
Zack
the light node shows my positive channel balance
02:29
In reply to this message
if you have externally accessible IP and port 8080, then it will stay in sync automatically.
Otherwise you need to do it manually.
02:30
Deleted Account
ok
Z
02:31
Zack
I updated the default in my pool with shares so that it pays out if you have more than 0.5 Veo.
02:34
Deleted Account
I switched over one gpu to your pool Zack seems to be operating
02:34
yet another stupid question tho
Z
02:34
Zack
In reply to this message
great. thanks for trying it out.
02:34
Deleted Account
in the pubkey, your wallet goes in there?
Z
02:35
Zack
are you talking about this page? http://159.89.106.253:8085/main.html
02:35
Deleted Account
yes
Z
02:35
Zack
my pubkey looks like this: BCjdlkTKyFh7BBx4grLUGFJCedmzo4e0XT1KJtbSwq5vCJHrPltHATB+maZ+Pncjnfvt9CsCcI9Rn1vO+fPLIV4=
02:35
Deleted Account
Okay so wallet
02:35
Cool
02:35
veo: NaN shares: undefined
02:35
Getting that so far
02:35
I assume because I just switched over
Z
02:36
Zack
when people say "wallet" they usually mean a pieces of software for holding tokens.
This string is either called a "pubkey" or an "address"
02:36
In reply to this message
maybe it didn't work.
You should find about 512 shares for every 1 block you find.
02:37
I put a couple bets into the market: http://159.65.120.84:8080/explorer.html

Now you can gamble with me on what the difficulty will be in the future.
G
02:39
Gonzalo
02:40
Mandels miner on windows, left is mandels pool, right is Zacks pool
02:40
for every share I find on Zacks I'll find tens on Mandels
02:40
Diff is always 10001 at Zacks
Z
02:41
Zack
I have it set so users find 512 shares for every block. is this too few?
02:42
If you find shares too frequently, it slows down your miner.
MF
02:43
Mr Flintstone
people join pools to reduce payout volatility, So Maybe 512 is too few for smaller miners
Z
02:43
Zack
My understanding of the miner is that each round of mining takes the same amount of time, even if you find a share half way through.
If you do find a share half way through, then you aren't searching during the second half of that period.
MF
02:44
Mr Flintstone
whoa we just found a few blocks really quickly
Z
02:44
Zack
Currently mandel's is having about 32000 shares per block it lo0ks like
02:45
If I change how many shares per block there are right now, it would be unfair to the other users who mined during this period.
02:45
So I will wait till we find the next block, then adjust.
G
02:47
Gonzalo
πŸ‘
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03:00
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
Zack For the oracle, since it expires at block 13200, can I make/retract a bet at block 12002 (after the block 12001)?
Z
03:02
Zack
In reply to this message
open unmatched orders can be retracted at any time for no cost.
If you want to undo a matched order, then you need to make a bet in the opposite direction. Once it is matched, then you can combine the 2 opposite bets and get your Veo out.

So if the price has changed, then you could have made or lost money from the market, even though the market is still open.
03:02
the trick is to buy low, and sell high.
03:03
If you don't want to wait until 13000 for the market to settle, you can sell your shares early and get your veo out to be done with it.
03:04
after height 12001 the market will say ~98% in one direction, so you can sell at that time and get almost as much money as if you had waited until 13000
03:05
It looks like I am the only person who has bet in the market
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03:08
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
which side did you bet on?
Z
03:08
Zack
both. Did you look at the graph?
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03:09
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
I did, and I saw something I don't understand
03:09
that's why I'm asking
Z
03:09
Zack
blue is open bets on false, orange is open bets on true.
03:09
I bet 0.1 Veo on both at a price of 15% each.
03:10
so I bet at 3-7 odds.
03:10
the spread is currently 70%
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03:11
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
maybe I'm too dump? but I don't understand
03:12
how do I make bet anyways?
Z
03:12
Zack
from the light node. first you need a channel with the server: http://159.65.120.84:8080/wallet.html
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03:13
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
03:13
none of this make sense to me really
Z
03:14
Zack
start with small amounts of money then, so you don't accidentally lose any.
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03:15
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
nah, it's way too hard
03:15
that's probably why no one participate
S
03:15
Sy
+
Z
03:17
Zack
I am happy to answer any specific question
03:21
There are still 3 weeks left in the market.
Hard to guess what will happen based on the first 20 minutes.
MH
03:22
Mandel Hoff
Please switch to amoveopool2.com as soon as possible. I may need to raise fees on amoveopool.com to encourage the migration. Probably will boost fee in several hours to give some transition time.
Z
03:26
Zack
In reply to this message
I changed my mind. I am leaving it at 512.
Feel free to change the variable to whatever you want if you launch an instance of the open-source mining pool.
OK
03:28
O K
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πŸ‘
03:28
Deleted Account
@Mandelhoff So we just put http://amoveopool2.com at the end of the config file (windows)?
03:29
AmoveoMinerGpuCuda.exe <Base64AmoveoAddress> <CudaDeviceId> <BlockSize> <NumBlocks> <RandomSeed> <SuffixMax> http://amoveopool2.com/work
03:29
Deleted Account
Thanks!
Z
03:30
Zack
https://jimhsu.github.io/amoveo-stats/
The hash rate increased a lot today.
OK
03:32
O K
The blocktime graph is pretty wild
Z
03:36
Zack
yes Jim added more since yesterday. Good job Jim, it is very cool.
03:38
Deleted Account
What will happen to my unpaid balance on pool 1?
OK
03:39
O K
@Mandelhoff Will need to answer that
Z
03:39
Zack
I think he said he will lower the reward threshold, so everyone will get paid whatever they have.
03:39
Deleted Account
Okay cool
MH
03:40
Mandel Hoff
In reply to this message
After we get everyone "stopped", I'll set the min-payout threshold form 1.0 down to just above the fee amount and it should payout all the Unpaid Balances. Many of those may get lost, so I'll let it run until all of the re-payments get confirmed. Then, I'll shut it down.
S
03:55
Sy
you do realize that if everyone switches to amoveopool2 you just shift the problem?
OK
03:55
O K
Which problem?
S
03:55
Sy
they should both run and the official pool should be changed so it does getwork and submit the same way
03:55
that one pool is solving everything
OK
03:56
O K
We are going to add redundancy
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03:56
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
@Simon3456 you wanna run a pool youself? πŸ™ƒ
S
03:57
Sy
i did
03:57
but erlang is brainfucking me and i dont really have time to get into it to change
03:57
zack might be close tho, ill go solo again if its working
OK
03:57
O K
On or after Mar 20 we will switch the original URL
03:58
and add a second (or more) nodes
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03:58
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
Now that Zack's share pool is open source, you can run a pool easily
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03:58
O K
and a 2nd separate server
S
03:58
Sy
the shares were never the issue
03:58
it has to work like mandels so we only got one miner
03:58
no point in having two "protocols"
OK
03:58
O K
And the miner will be updated to use backup when one fails
S
03:59
Sy
my pool mined the majority of blocks between 4000 and 7000 i think xD
OK
04:02
O K
Mandel updated the miner for us to default to the new URL https://github.com/Mandelhoff/AmoveoMinerGpuCuda/releases
04:03
If you're used to leaving many default arguments, this will make the transition simpler
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04:03
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
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How much GPU do you have man 😳
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04:04
O K
πŸ‘¨β€πŸŒΎ
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04:10
Ghadras
Now switched all miner to amoveopool2. Job done πŸ‘
MH
04:13
Mandel Hoff
Thank you for switching over.
Z
04:16
Zack
In reply to this message
My shares pool is accepting both protocols now.
You can use any miner.
S
04:17
Sy
In reply to this message
still port 8085?
Z
04:17
Zack
Yes.
I am running 2 pools right now.
MH
04:42
Mandel Hoff
In about 4 more hours, I'll raise the old pool fee to 8% and then something like 15% tomorrow to encourage migration to amoveopool2.com
Z
04:43
Zack
Why not 100%?
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04:43
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
In reply to this message
πŸ˜‚
OK
04:43
O K
Can you put a warning in the HTML ?
04:46
Deleted Account
04:46
When should I notice something? lol
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04:47
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
OK
04:48
O K
When we get a block
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04:48
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
amoveopool2 is charging 3%?
04:48
Deleted Account
Yeah
OK
04:48
O K
For the time being, everything should be basically identical
04:48
We will be making improvements in the coming weeks
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04:49
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
can't @Mandelhoff just route amoveopool.com to another pool's IP?
04:49
then all the miners get automatically migrated
04:49
ezpz
OK
04:51
O K
I think @Mandelhoff had some other concerns about rerouting a domain that still belongs to him to the new server
Z
04:54
Zack
Jim why do you estimate 450 th per block?
I am pretty sure it is 300 th per block now.
J
04:59
Jim
Estimation for block 10000
Z
04:59
Zack
Oh cool
J
04:59
Jim
It "should" converge towards the correct value the closer we get. Not sure how well it works, will have to see.
Z
04:59
Zack
I like the website
J
04:59
Jim
Thanks!
O K invited Everyone
OK
05:04
O K
Type \/in to subscribe to notifications for everyone (the equivalent of @ everyone on other platforms)
05:05
/in
05:05
It is opt in only
05:10
Deleted Account
In reply to this message
why? will you leave amoveo comunity?
OK
05:11
O K
Mandel will continue to do work for the pool. He was concerned about the tax implications of pool ownership, so the ownership has changed. I don't think Mandel is going anywhere.
05:14
Deleted Account
zack is a good programer but low eq
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05:16
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
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πŸ˜‚
05:28
Deleted Account
/in
05:29
/in
M
05:29
Minieep21
/in
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05:31
Ghadras
Wait for 1st block @ amoveopool2.com
D
05:35
Denis
/in
05:35
Deleted Account
05:35
/in
OK
05:36
O K
Go to telegram settings victor and make an @ tag
05:36
Deleted Account
ok, thanks noob in telegram
JS
05:39
Jon Snow
05:39
/in
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05:39
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
that is this thing?
OK
05:39
O K
05:40
Deleted Account
Z
05:40
Zack
This seems like a lot of spam. I am considering banning everyone Bot
OK
05:41
O K
That's up to you, but it could be useful to you someday. The spam is temporary as people sign up.
05:41
If there is an emergency node fix or something, you can utilize it
Z
05:41
Zack
It will be continuous since the community is growing
OK
05:41
O K
Can you mute the bot without banning it?
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05:41
Paul N. | BAND (πŸ…‘) - I'll never DM you
05:41
holy cow
05:42
are we having a party?
Z
05:42
Zack
It also makes it too easy for spammers to make spam.
We have twitter for announcements.
OK
05:43
O K
You do you
05:44
I've never used it before, but I'm pretty sure people can PM the bot and still opt in
Z
05:44
Zack
and there is an announcements channel in discord
05:45
and I can use the pin feature on this group. I think when I pin something new it has the option to warn everyone in the group
OK
05:45
O K
Yeah I hear you, it could be a lot of spam. I would give it a day and see
05:45
You're not the only person that needs to reach out to people
Z
05:45
Zack
OK
05:45
O K
and the discord is a ghost land
Zack pinned this message
Z
05:46
Zack
yes, I confirmed that pinning a message gives me the option to notify everyone.
05:47
If you needed to reach out to people, I could pin a message for you.
We do occasionally get advertisements in this channel. It seems like using me as a filter has more advantages than disadvantages.
OK
05:49
O K
It would be helpful to pin the information about amoveopool2 switch: Those using amoveopool.com please update your miner for amoveopool2.com switch: http://github.com/mandelhoff/AmoveoMinerGpuCuda to avoid fee increases.
Z
05:50
Zack
In reply to this message
good idea
OK
05:50
O K
Or however you see fit to word it, I don't like the idea of people who were enjoying their day losing out to fees that they weren't expecting
05:50
Thank you
I
05:52
Iridescence
I've changed the default pool on my miner to amoveopool2 now, hopefully it finds a block soon
Z
05:53
Zack
Warning for miners. amoveopool.com is shutting down as a mining pool. Use one of these instead: http://159.89.106.253:8085/ or amoveopool2.com

or you can use this software to start your own mining pool: https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo-mining-pool
It uses shares, has a web interface so miners can see how many shares they have mined, and it is compatible with all Amoveo miners.

You can learn more about Amoveo here: https://github.com/zack-bitcoin/amoveo
Zack pinned this message
05:54
Deleted Account
oh noooooo
OK
05:54
O K
Lol
05:54
It's the same pool, and Mandel is still working on it
05:54
Don't panic Terrible
05:55
Deleted Account
oh well i am not panicking, hell i am not even mining
05:55
πŸ˜‰
OK
05:55
O K
Haha ;)
05:55
Deleted Account
i am just seeing the sad demise of US invividuals from crypto world
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05:55
O K
You're not a biased filter at all Zack
05:55
πŸ˜‰
05:56
Deleted Account
so seems the hash is going up without addition of new members here
05:57
quite strange
M
05:58
Marc
new pool has 1/4 of hashrate but no block yet. 3.22 TH/s vs 945.33 GH/s. 😱
OK
05:58
O K
Some people switched, and then switched back
MH
05:58
Mandel Hoff
I added some html markup to the amoveopool.com pool and miner stats page. It may get some attention for anyone checking balances.
Z
05:58
Zack
In reply to this message
I think they are using the same pubkey
OK
05:58
O K
Unfortunately for them, that is only a temporary solution
Z
05:59
Zack
If you make the fee 100%, that will get them to switch quickly
OK
05:59
O K
That is not a good business practice, please don't do that
05:59
At least make it gradual
05:59
Deleted Account
100% fee, cool idea
06:00
make it 200% - they have to pay to mine
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06:00
Zack
it isn't good practice to copy/paste a private key between 2 servers either.
I hope you didn't do this?
MH
06:00
Mandel Hoff
amoveopool2.com has a new coin base address.
OK
06:00
O K
Where did you get that idea?
06:01
In reply to this message
Now that's thinkin
Z
06:01
Zack
The new pool has hashpower now, but all the blocks are still from the old pool. I guess randomness could cause this too.
06:02
or maybe something isn't configured right?