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1/6) Solana was DDoS attacked again yesterday
This attack exploited fundamental design flaws which are considered features by SOL
As it sacrifices decentralization & security for speed
While ignoring the consequences of that trade off
Specifically Proof of History & Turbine:
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2/6) A consequence of PoH is deterministic block creation:
There is a good reason why public blockchains before SoL did not take this route
Non-deterministic block creation adds to security & censorship resistance as you cannot predict who will create the next block
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3/6) Instead in SoL it is possible to predict & therefore attack the next block producers inline
For instance attacking the next 100 validators inline instead of attacking the entire network
This attack also works regardless of scale, thereby severely reducing SOL security
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4/6) SOL security is not just reduced against DDoS attacks since this attack can also be combined with a 51% attack
Allowing an attacker to temporarily gain proportional staked control over the network by attacking other large stake holders
These are all consequences of PoH!
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5/6) Combining Turbine with PoH leads to even more dire consequences:
Turbine divides the transaction memory pool into small groupings of validators
This means that with PoH you can censor transactions by just attacking the specific validators in that grouping next inline!
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6/6) This is just one aspect of SOL's design that exposes the bad faith of its creation
Prioritizing attracting ignorant cryptocurrency investors over good sustainable blockchain design
There are many examples like this in terms of design as well as lies & fraud, buyer beware
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Good thing is that their CEO got huge restart button that he can press anytime
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Indeed, that is the point that many miss.
What is more concerning is that a project like SoL will never be able to stand on its own.
Without the decentralized foundations it might never emergently grow to support true decentralization beyond the influance of its founders.
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has been talking about this for years. I don’t know why ADA has more FUD than SOL.
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Because ADA is fundamentally flawed too. Theory with no application. Key point was their failed smart contract launch
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We can change that!
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This guy has been whining about Solanas market cap growth all year and this is just his latest desperate attempt to scare people.
Solana survived yet another DDOS attack AND it never went offline. If anything, thats positive.
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If everything was as you said, then why did no one else hack the Sol network?
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Just a matter of time & scale.
SoL also has been attacked multiple times now.
Maybe this thread will give other people some ideas.
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I read this in entirety. You’ve got some strong points, but I wish you’d have offered some solutions beyond “this is fucked”. I know it’s not your job but I need a little more inspiration and don’t have as much thought crime time as I used to.
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As a SOL outsider I would say just use a different blockchain.
As an insider I would have to take a hard look in the mirror & pivot development to a design which would have more in common with ETH.
That is a hard turn to make & something their investors would not be happy with.
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I’m curious Justin… and not that it’s the only consideration here… but where do you have the bulk of your investments currently?
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That's a rhetorical question. We all know it's ETH.
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> 1/6) Solana was DDoS attacked again yesterday
> This attack exploited fundamental design flaws which are considered features by SOL
you got any data to show there was a DDOS that resulted in a physical link failure? or resource exhaustion even?
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*crickets*
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> 2/6 "There is a good reason why public blockchains before SoL didn't use proof of history"
Yes, the reason is that PoH was invented by Solana. It literally did not exist before Solana. 
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misrepresenting what was written
it's clear that "there is a good reason why public blockchains before Sol did not use deterministic block creation" is what was intended
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Hey Gabo, what's up? The thread is compiled, don't hesitate to share it. Have a good read:
Bonjour, you can read it here: 1/6) Solana was DDoS attacked again yesterday This attack exploited… https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1469375118036160529.html… See you soon. 
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- 7k followers
- timeline full Vitalik moonboy mode
- suddenly a thread on DDos on Solana with no links whatsoever
Idk man.. at least share some sauce?
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I have been covering Solana for a while now:
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1/6) In early April 2020 the Solana team stated that the total circulating supply was 8.2M.
When in reality the total circulating supply was above 20M!
Marking the start of a long series of lies, fraud & deception by SOL
The following story is all based on verifiable evidence:
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Sola-na >>> Na Sola! In my local dialect this literally means “a fraud”! Thanks for the info, I never even wanted to know about Na Sola. Just for the name saying all already! 
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Have you addressed the elephant in the room? How is $ETH to become the world super computer (network) when it out prices 99% of the population? Please, I'd love to hear this.
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A critique of ETH is not a defense for SOL.
If ETH does not scale to meet its demand in time it will lose my support as fast as it first gained my support in 2015.
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Thanks for the insight, AVAX is not susceptible to this type of problem, right?
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As far as I understand it AVAX has non-deterministic block production
So this is indeed not a problem for AVAX
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Wait so the network gets "DDoSd" (straight bs, conveniently left out your evidence) and still does more than 700 TPS? Interesting
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Ahh yeah, I can take this part over if you want.
Smart contracts coming soon! ADA never had a DEFI exploit so far. Clearly superior tech!
#ADAto1KEOY
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The scary part is that those events are not attacks. It is usually an IDO where everyone wants to be first and send thousands of transactions to the leader of the validators through UDP. So IMO a real attack would do even more damage
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Then shouldn’t « the best » NOT go offline?
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ETH will eventually die because it's unusable to most people. SOL will keep getting even better, keep attracting the best dev teams and achieve mass adoption.
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Elrond is coming 
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Wait, wasn't this ppl boting the heck out of Raydium during an metaverse IDO? Or was that just a silly speculation too...? 
Thanks for sharing! I guess while they remain sort of the leader among the “ETH killers” every misstep like this widens the gap and gives the ETH ecosystem more time to reduce gas fees to increase desirability
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Interested to see reactions to this. The narrative of “nobody cares about decentralization” may be true here. Sol sees deterministic block creation as a feature, but recognizes it as an inherent design flaw?
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Great finding but it is not difficult to surmise that Solana sacrifices decentralization and security for speed. What is difficult to comprehend that so many rich, wealthy and intelligent folks are misguiding all of us . Sol product innovation is guided by price innovation
. Sol product innovation is guided by price innovation5
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The problem with this criticism is you’re obviously not an unbiased critic so it’s hard to give it much attention. The fact that your last 500 tweets are retweets of Vitalik kinda suggests you MIGHT have a little agenda you’re pushing there. Perhaps carrying a yuge bag of Eth?
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for this I do not understand how can be so undervalued.
With a technology far superior to that of Sol, Avax ...
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Don't Ethereum validator leaders also get publicized in advance and are vulnerable to a similar attack after they switch to proof of stake?
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SBF has put so much money into SOL. Probably getting to the point of regret and/or what the hell did I do.
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OMG Still SOLANA on attack...
That P of History...didnt know abt that..1st time i tweeted abt Solana was WHEN I THOUGHT there was prtnership wd SKALE..was told i was wrong... now wd these attacks, association wd Solana is what then?? 'Even looked up PoH, seems flawed as well??
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....and poor me...thinking it was a giant to reckon with..
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Brilliant!
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Nothing to write home about. Not to be salty but we all knew stuff like this was going to happen considering how their consensus works
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And love with sorrow is not love, it's just meaningless clinging
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Is anyone surprised? #Solana
is not a secure network and it has been proven multiple times. These types of problems are not seen in networks like #Avalanche
is not a secure network and it has been proven multiple times. These types of problems are not seen in networks like #Avalanche1
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Not a surprise tbh, stuff like this will keep happening if they don't improve their consensus
BSV has this all solved yet they continue to waste time on dysfunctional hobby platforms....so stupid.
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Solana is a shitcoin. But this market is basically whales manipulating small fish to eat them.
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SOL survived. And it is still the cheapest, fastest block chain. Maybe you are a USD millionaire, you have no idea how people from developing country are going to use a block chain that cost half their monthly income for 1 transaction. SOL is still the most scalable now.
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No one can escape the triple dilemma. Bridge is the promising way to obtain security, scalability and decentralized.
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If people want speed and sacrifice security why not use AWS. Seems like a nobrainer
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Keep digging... Do you have other solutions other than... "Don't use Sol" 
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Decide yourself: Egld vs sol
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1/Before I ever settled on @ElrondNetwork $EGLD I studied the entire space of smart contract Blockchains. Read all white papers multiple times. Trying to understand the trade offs. This was long after I read 100’s of hours on the #ETHOS of Blockchains, the trilemma, & DAO’s $SOL
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Don’t worry the will hop to the next experimental proof of God knows what and hype it for the crypto mass.
Everything has been solved from the beginning alive in Bitcoin original vision
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SOL like many others is just another cowboy chain with no real world enterprise use. Just a bunch of cowboy dapps, speculation and hype.
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1/Before I ever settled on @ElrondNetwork $EGLD I studied the entire space of smart contract Blockchains. Read all white papers multiple times. Trying to understand the trade offs. This was long after I read 100’s of hours on the #ETHOS of Blockchains, the trilemma, & DAO’s $SOL
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1/22 Some perspective on #Solana TPS. On September 14, 2021 Solana said that it had encountered a denial-of-service disruption caused by a surge txn loads, reaching as high as 400k attempted txns per second, that overwhelmed its network and led to its longest downtime yet.
TPS. On September 14, 2021 Solana said that it had encountered a denial-of-service disruption caused by a surge txn loads, reaching as high as 400k attempted txns per second, that overwhelmed its network and led to its longest downtime yet.Show this thread
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How so? Have any additional info on that? I am interested.
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Understand the sentiment, but can’t scream this about Solana and whisper the millions hacked during Ethereum’s early days. This thread isn’t supporting the overall body of blockchain. Not the right approach but useful to some.
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Need to go to the other sharding project $MTV.. it’s fast, low fees, NFT market will launch in January, hackathon starting soon, node operation this month, etc
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all these legitimate arguments are coming from a man child who literally said last month that is his god
eth maxis taking shots at solana maxis is like watching a dog chase it’s own tail lmao
eth maxis taking shots at solana maxis is like watching a dog chase it’s own tail lmao1
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TLDR:
sam: hi my servers are down what do I do?
tech support:"did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in"
sam: oh it worked thanks
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